RE: [ga] 6000+ unique At Large Members?

["Denise Michel" <denisemichel@sbcglobal.net>]

Allow me to clear-up your confusion regarding the At-Large announce list
(note that it is an *announce list*, not a *membership list*).

In early 2001, ICANN sent an announcement to the list that was generated as
part of the 2000 At-Large election, inviting individuals to opt-in to an
At-Large announce list.  5000+ people did so.  The At-Large Study Committee
(http://www.atlargestudy.org/)  then used and maintained this announce list,
and another 1000+ individuals joined the list through the ALSC's website
during the course of the Committee's work.  Additional names were added to
the list last year through the efforts of the At-Large Organizing Committee
(http://www.at-large.org/).  The list will now be used and maintained by the
At-Large Advisory Committee (http://alac.icann.org/).

Denise Michel
michel@icann.org
http://alac.icann.org/

>RE: [ga] 6000+ unique At Large Members?
>To: Denise Michel <denisemichel@icann.org>, abel@able-towers.com,
>DannyYounger@cs.com, ga@dnso.org
>Subject: RE: [ga] 6000+ unique At Large Members?
>From: Joanna Lane <jo-uk@rcn.com>
>Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 14:01:16 -0400
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>ICANN really must reassure the Department of Commerce that it is not
>bolstering its credibility by falsely claiming interest that it does not in
>fact have. The 6000+ must be a typo, or how has Denise arrived at this
>number?
>
>Conservatively, that has to be about 5,000 more people than have actually
>participated in the At Large debate since the end of the Elections in 2000.
>Of those registered at that time, many are now represented in the GNSO
>constituencies, on the ALAC itself and in ICANN Staff Offices. Even serious
>lobbying in the public fora by the most passionate of activists failed to
>raise more than, say, let's be generous, 1,000 at any one time on any list.
>So who are these 6,000 unique individuals exactly? Where are they from?
>
>In total there have been 3 Announce lists for the At Large, each grown from
>the previous, with a large number of duplications between the lists as
>people rolled from one to the next, each shut down by ICANN in turn. ID
>verification is an unresolved problem as people joined these lists multiple
>times using different names and email addresses. What steps are ICANN Staff
>taking to protect the integrity of the lists they are compiling?
>
>Even if the 6000+ number is correct, which is hard to believe, it is a
>matter of record that the vast majority were attracted by the
>opportunity to
>vote in an election. ICANN's abandonment of democratic foundations, viewed
>as a betrayal, has now manifested itself as zero interest in this new
>venture. In reality, prior interest is most definitely not ongoing from the
>At Large Lists of the past, especially for an organization that is not
>founded in democratic principles.
>
>Did Denise take the original At Large electorate data for 2000 and subtract
>the number of emails that bounced on the ALSC Announce List? If so, that
>would confirm an impressive 90+% failure rate to foster At Large
>participation over the last 3 years.
>
>For the record, the At Large Announce lists amount to these:-
>
>1) Year 2000: At Large Elections List, closed more than 2 years ago.
>2) Year 2001: ALSC list, roughly 1,000+ rolled over from earlier list,
>numbers declined to a handful of participants when closed more than 1 year
>ago.
>3) Year 2002: 100+ active participants from the 2001 list rolled over to
>ICANNAtLarge.com, originally funded by ICANN Staff under the leadership of
>Denise Michel. Membership grew to roughly 1000, of which only a handful
>remain active today.
>
>By my calculations, that makes about 60 left, not 6,000.
>
>Regards,
>Joanna
>
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>> From: owner-ga@dnso.org [mailto:owner-ga@dnso.org] On Behalf Of
>> DannyYounger@cs.com
>> Sent: 22 April 2003 17:13
>> To: ga@dnso.org
>> Subject: [ga] 6000+ names
>>
>>
>> Just posted:
>>
>> ICANN's technical staff is working on combining past At-Large announce
>> lists (with 6000 + names) for the ALAC's use and an announce list
>> subscribe/un-subscribe mechanism for the ALAC's website.  I expect this
>> to be operational very soon.
>>
>> Denise
>>
>> http://forum.icann.org/mail-archive/alac/msg00189.html
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