[ga] "Making the right noises for a while is the easy part and will not make you "the real voice of the users" ...

["Jim Fleming" <JimFleming@ameritech.net>]

From: "Joop Teernstra" <terastra@terabytz.co.nz>
"Making the right noises for a while is the easy part and will not make you "the real voice of the users" ."
===

Joop,

With all due respect, you and others from NZ, have been making noises for a long time.
As you have seen, some Americans have used your noises to impede the marketplace in America.
You, therefore become a tool of the censors and those who seek to control and constrain.
[It would be interesting to know if you are paid to do that, even without your knowledge.]
Their agenda is to claim that Americans can not progress until the rest of the world is even.
That can not happen. You can not change the laws of physics. The new services will exclude
the rest of the world. North America is like one planet and the rest of planet Earth is another.
Sending an alien from down-under to further help to censor and contrain Americans will have
zero impact. If anything, it will make Americans work harder to resist the censorship.

Jim Fleming
http://www.IPv8.info


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joop Teernstra" <terastra@terabytz.co.nz>
To: "Esther Dyson" <edyson@edventure.com>; "Vittorio Bertola" <vb@bertola.eu.org>
Cc: "Richard Henderson" <richardhenderson@ntlworld.com>; <ga@dnso.org>
Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2003 4:39 AM
Subject: Re: [ga] Who speaks for the ALAC?


> At 12:10 a.m. 31/05/2003, Esther Dyson wrote:
> >Thanks, Vittorio!
> >
> >Esther
> >
> >At 06:50 AM 5/30/2003, Vittorio Bertola wrote:
> >>On Thu, 29 May 2003 10:42:33 +0100, you wrote:
> >>
> >> >At present ALAC is not defending Users. It is acquiescing.
> >>
> >>I don't think that the ALAC is "acquiescing" to anything - especially
> >>if you have a look at some of the things we said in the last weeks. We
> >>try to do our best to keep up with all policy proceedings and at the
> >>same time go on building the regional representation mechanism (and
> >>still have a job, a life and so on); and we want to be constructive,
> >>so we usually try to focus our comments on current issues and specific
> >>points. But we are not afraid to speak when we think it's necessary.
> 
> Vittorio and Ester,
> 
> It is true that the ALAC have made the right noises lately.
> Wendy Selzer said good things things about new gTLD introductions. Maybe 
> there is hope.
> 
> But the fundamental problem remains . Making the right noises for a while 
> is the easy part and will not make you "the real voice of the users" .
> Not without an open representational structure that can nominate, elect and 
> dismiss your spokespersons.
> 
> 
> -joop-
> 
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