Re: [ga] Re: WHOIS accuracy, and name deletions

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>]

Derek and all,

  Derek your point is well taken in many respects I am sure.  However
how do you reconcile your thought with the fact that many Domain Names
are not used for Web Sites or are restricted use via DNSEC?

Derek J. Balling wrote:

> A couple other thoughts, from someone interested in this topic:
>
> Hold after 15d. Delete 90d after held. If the domain isn't working for
> a month, and the domainholder hasn't contacted anyone to get it
> resolved, and is unreachable, I don't see a need to hang on to the
> domain much longer when others might actually be "responsible"
> landlords of the domain. :)
>
> On Tuesday, January 7, 2003, at 09:03  AM, ezgoing wrote:
>
> > I agree that 15 days is not reasonable.
> >
> > I believe that the policy of Verisign and other Registrars not
> > releasing
> > expired domains is more of a problem than the Whois information not
> > being
> > accurate.  Why hasn't anything ever been done about this problem?
> >
> > It would be nice if it was accurate but it should require a registered
> > letter before the domain could be deleted.  Place it on hold after 15
> > days,
> > delete after three months if there is no response to a registered
> > letter.
> >
> > Ed
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "George Kirikos" <gkirikos@yahoo.com>
> > To: <discuss-list@opensrs.org>
> > Cc: <ga@dnso.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 4:15 AM
> > Subject: WHOIS accuracy, and name deletions
> >
> >
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> Folks might not be aware of discussions going on in the WHOIS accuracy
> >> task force of the DNSO/GNSO. See:
> >>
> >> http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/nc-whois/Arc00/msg00806.html
> >>
> >> for instance.
> >>
> >> Am I the only one who is concerned that a legitimately held name might
> >> be deleted due to a simple failure to respond within 15 days? Given
> >> the
> >> amount of spam out there (it's easy to accidentally skip over an
> >> email,
> >> thinking it was spam), and lack of guaranteed delivery of email, I
> >> think that this is a very dangerous and poorly thought-out proposal
> >> for
> >> legitimate domain holders, especially those with small staffs (or
> >> self-employed). I am all for WHOIS accuracy (it helps to promote
> >> responsible internet usage, and reduce abuse behaviour), but there
> >> needs to be some balance in that proposal. If someone goes on holidays
> >> for 3 weeks, or misses an email, conceivably they could find all their
> >> valuable domains are no longer held by them!
> >>
> >> I would hope that OpenSRS and other leading registrars would implement
> >> a "white-list" (where domain WHOIS is permanently marked as
> >> "accurate",
> >> or if not permanent than for long intervals of months, not days) of
> >> protected names, or other mechanisms to ensure that legitimate and
> >> correct domains are not hijacked through misuse of this policy, and
> >> that domains are protected. "Rogue" domain holders, with obviously
> >> fake
> >> WHOIS should be pursued, but legitimate holders should be protected.
> >>
> >> If AT&T, AOL, Google or another elite company moves its offices, and
> >> happens to not update their WHOIS records for a few weeks, should they
> >> lose *all* of their domains? Obviously not...they have the lawyers
> >> (and
> >> trademarks) to ensure that they'd get back any domain name that their
> >> registrar deletes, but smaller companies do not!
> >>
> >> Every summer, a lot of people move to new homes or apartments --
> >> should
> >> they all be rushing to change their WHOIS the exact moment they move,
> >> or fear losing all their domain names?
> >>
> >> Sincerely,
> >>
> >> George Kirikos
> >> http://www.kirikos.com/
> >
>
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