RE: [ga] whois.txt, ala robots.txt, as a standard ?

[Rick Wesson <wessorh@ar.com>]

George,

for those that are interested in the development of a replacement or
protocols to augment the data provided by whois, please consider
participating in the IETF CRISP [1] working group.

-rick

[1] http://www.ietf.org/html.charters/crisp-charter.html

On Tue, 4 Feb 2003, George Kirikos wrote:

> Hi Steven,
>
> --- Steven Heath <Steven.Heath@Optimation.co.nz> wrote:
> > > and a thought came to mind. Just as there is a "robots.txt"
> > standard
> > > for webcrawlers like Google, how about having a whois.txt standard
> > that
> > > folks can optionally use on their websites?
> >
> > Interesting yet flawed idea.
>
> I'm glad you found it interesting. :) Just to be clear, I didn't want
> it to be a *replacement* of the existing WHOIS -- just perhaps an
> add-on, to those who want to provide more details that can't fit in
> existing WHOIS, etc. i.e. an enhanced contact system....
>
> > We all know on this list (as we can hardly call it an assembly now
> > can we)
> > that the domain names are more than HTTP related.
>
> Definitely. Perhaps there are other protocols, besides HTTP that could
> accomplish this instead.
>
>
> > Domain names and all resulting detail that are called 'whois data'
> > MUST be
> > application or protocol neutral.
>
> Definitely, the basis required WHOIS would remain....just thinking that
> an enhancement might be of use by folks, e.g. for multiple languages,
> more contacts than just the basic ones, etc. Perhaps simply an extra
> field, which would allow a link to extra details (be it a http link,
> gopher link, or who knows what other protocols folks can think up.....)
>
> > The interesting thing about whois is that in New Zealand I can get
> > full
> > details on any company that is incorporated under NZ law. For
>
> Nice! :) You're ahead of us in Ontario, Canada, I believe.
>
> > Lets define what we are trying to achieve with whois data, then
> > decide how
> > to implement it.
>
> Yep, just tossed it out for discussion. What kinds of data would folks,
> as users, as registrants, etc. would they like to know about owners of
> a website, besides the "basics" specified by ICANN or the ccTLDs?
>
> 1. Other languages?
> 2. Local offices?
> 3. Legal contacts?
> 4. Maps? (funky MapQuest links!)
> 5. Associated companies?
> 6. GPS data? (kind of like http://www.geourl.org/ which uses tags)
> 7. Banking/payment data, e.g. where to wire $$$$
> 8. Corporation numbers?
> 9. DUNS numbers?
> 10. Telex? (does anyone use this anymore?)
> 11. CUSIP number?
> 12. Stock symbol?
> 13. Logo?
> 14. Birthday? :) (for personal websites, remember, these are all
> optional attributes!)
>
> I think VGRS is committed to spending $200 million on enhanced WHOIS --
> would be nice to see where that money has gone! :)
>
> So, what else would folks like to see, OPTIONALLY, about owners of a
> domain, besides the basics, in an ad-hoc standard ala robots.txt? Kind
> of like a "V-card" for a domain. :) Maybe something like UDDI
> (www.uddi.org)?
>
> Perhaps all the above has already been done by some other
> standard....just needs better promotion? (i.e. domain WHOIS is well
> publicized and understood, whereas no one knows about the
> alternatives...)
>
> Sincerely,
>
> George Kirikos
> http://www.kirikos.com/
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