Re: [ga] whois.txt, ala robots.txt, as a standard ?

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>]

Ross and all former DNSO GA members other interested parties,

  Your right of course here Ross.  The real problem also is that
we need to also answer the question: How and why did the
registrant/customer loose control over his/her personal information
in Whois records?

  In any event I unfortunately am of the belief that only through legal
means will the stakeholder/registrant be able to adequately protect
his/her personal information in Whois records if the present Final
report from the skewed Whois Task force is adopted.  This will
mean verbose legal challenges that will be expensive and damaging
in a number of ways...

Ross Wm. Rader wrote:

> These are interesting thoughts George, but I really believe that we need
> to completely disengage from the current system and its implications and
> start again from scratch. This proposal and those in development
> elsewhere seem to place an emphasis on fixing the mistakes of whois
> rather than creating a system that works.
>
> Let's start the re-engineering with a very basic question.
>
> Marketers do not need more rights when it comes to my personal data. The
> trademark, copyright and patent lobby do not need further rights when it
> comes to the protection of their interests. Individuals need a very
> basic mechanism that provides marketers and anyone else who wishes to
> use this very personal data with a means to ask the individual for
> permission to use the data. Once permission has been granted, then the
> individual can provide that information to the marketer.
>
> Full stop.
>
> Thefore, the basic question is, how do we do this? We can't even begin
> to start fixing the problem until we acknowledge that customers have
> lsot control of their data. The first step towards a solution lies in
> giving that control back.
>
>                        -rwr
>
> "There's a fine line between fishing and standing on the shore like an
> idiot."
> - Steven Wright
>
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>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-ga@dnso.org [mailto:owner-ga@dnso.org] On Behalf
> > Of George Kirikos
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 1:39 PM
> > To: ga@dnso.org
> > Subject: [ga] whois.txt, ala robots.txt, as a standard ?
> >
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > I was reading through the latest WHOIS task force updates, at:
> >
> http://does-not-exist.net/final-report/final-report-feb03-030201v0.html
>
> and a thought came to mind. Just as there is a "robots.txt" standard for
> webcrawlers like Google, how about having a whois.txt standard that
> folks can optionally use on their websites?
>
> For those who don't want to put in anything beyond the standard WHOIS
> output (i.e. for privacy, or to avoid spam), they can leave a blank
> whois.txt on their website or omit it entirely. For those who want
> "enhanced" contact details, and want to be easily found, they can
> supplement what's already in the standard WHOIS.
>
> For instance, they can provide additional contacts, WHOIS in different
> languages, contact info for various countries, etc. This can also assist
> in the goal of WHOIS accuracy -- in case the registrant is unable to be
> reached from their existing WHOIS info, the registrar can try the info
> in their (by default) http://www.example.com/whois.txt
>
> Perhaps someone clever can even think of an XML format or something for
> this enhanced WHOIS, to allow standard tools (like other WHOIS servers,
> such as www.betterwhois.com or www.uwhois.com, etc.) to parse it. Folks
> like Alexa, for example, who already supply contact details at:
>
> http://www.alexa.com/data/details?url=icann.org
>
> (type a different URL, to see if that domain's contact info is correct)
> can crawl the web to get the contacts automatically, instead of mining
> the WHOIS, optionally for those who want to be found easily.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> George Kirikos
> http://www.kirikos.com/
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