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RE: [ga] Re: wait a minute - icannatlarge = Joop Teernstra


Domain name: ICANNATLARGE.ORG

Registrant Contact:
   ICANNatlarge.org
   Hans Klein   (hans.klein@alum.mit.edu)
   1-404-894-2258
   FAX: 1-404-894-0535
   175 15th St. NE
   Suite PH-4
   Atlanta, GA 30309
   US


Administrative Contact:
   ICANNatlarge.org
   Hans Klein   (hans.klein@alum.mit.edu)
   1-404-894-2258
   FAX: 1-404-894-0535
   175 15th St. NE
   Suite PH-4
   Atlanta, GA 30309
   US


Billing Contact:
   ICANNatlarge.org
   Hans Klein   (hans.klein@alum.mit.edu)
   1-404-894-2258
   FAX: 1-404-894-0535
   175 15th St. NE
   Suite PH-4
   Atlanta, GA 30309
   US


Technical Contact:
   ICANNatlarge.org
   Jamie Love   (james.love@cptech.org)
   1.202.387.8030
   FAX: 1.202.234.5176
   Consumer Project on Technology
   P.O. Box 19367
   washington, DC 20036
   US

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-ga@dnso.org [mailto:owner-ga@dnso.org] On Behalf 
> Of Joe Baptista
> Sent: 08 February 2003 22:22
> To: Richard Henderson
> Cc: General Assembly of the DNSO; marc@fuchsia.bijt.net
> Subject: [ga] Re: wait a minute - icannatlarge = Joop Teernstra
> 
> 
> 
> and who runs icannatlarge.org
> 
> if i try to register as a user it tells me to goto 
> icannatlarge.org. unfortunately the whois for that registry 
> is not working.  another fine example of icann stability - so 
> who's behind that?
> 
> regards
> joe baptista
> 
> Domain ID:D90916972-LROR
> Domain Name:ICANNATLARGE.ORG
> Created On:04-Oct-2002 18:04:46 UTC
> Last Updated On:03-Nov-2002 22:58:09 UTC
> Expiration Date:04-Oct-2003 18:04:46 UTC
> Sponsoring Registrar:R39-LROR
> Status:CLIENT DELETE PROHIBITED
> Status:CLIENT TRANSFER PROHIBITED
> Status:CLIENT UPDATE PROHIBITED
> Registrant ID:39-C
> Registrant Name:CONTACT NOT AUTHORITATIVE
> Registrant Street1:Whois Server:whois.enom.com
> Registrant Street2:Referral URL:www.enom.com
> Registrant City:N/A
> Registrant Postal Code:N/A
> Registrant Country:CA
> Registrant Email:not@available.org
> Admin ID:39-C
> Admin Name:CONTACT NOT AUTHORITATIVE
> Admin Street1:Whois Server:whois.enom.com
> Admin Street2:Referral URL:www.enom.com
> Admin City:N/A
> Admin Postal Code:N/A
> Admin Country:CA
> Admin Email:not@available.org
> Billing ID:39-C
> Billing Name:CONTACT NOT AUTHORITATIVE
> Billing Street1:Whois Server:whois.enom.com
> Billing Street2:Referral URL:www.enom.com
> Billing City:N/A
> Billing Postal Code:N/A
> Billing Country:CA
> Billing Email:not@available.org
> Tech ID:39-C
> Tech Name:CONTACT NOT AUTHORITATIVE
> Tech Street1:Whois Server:whois.enom.com
> Tech Street2:Referral URL:www.enom.com
> Tech City:N/A
> Tech Postal Code:N/A
> Tech Country:CA
> Tech Email:not@available.org
> Name Server:UK1.ABLE-TOWERS.COM
> Name Server:UK2.ABLE-TOWERS.COM
> 
> Joe Baptista - only at www.baptista.god
> 
>  iNameSpace.Com - Your Source For Inclusive Name Space 
> Domains! http://www.4altdomains.net
> 
> On Sat, 8 Feb 2003, Joe Baptista wrote:
> 
> >
> > not that i mind - but is this the second coming of Joop Teernstra.  
> > amen.
> >
> > Registrant:
> >    Joop Teernstra
> >    Cyberspace Association
> >    422b Beach Road
> >    Mairangi Bay
> >    Auckland,  1309
> >    New Zealand
> >
> >    Registered through: Go Daddy Software (http://www.godaddy.com)
> >    Domain Name: ICANNATLARGE.COM
> >       Created on: 20-Feb-02
> >       Expires on: 20-Feb-03
> >       Last Updated on: 26-Nov-02
> >
> >    Administrative Contact:
> >       Teernstra, Joop  terastra@terabytz.co.nz
> >       Cyberspace Association
> >       422b Beach Road
> >       Mairangi Bay
> >       Auckland,  1309
> >       New Zealand
> >       (649) 479-8110       Fax --
> >    Technical Contact:
> >       Teernstra, Joop  terastra@terabytz.co.nz
> >       Cyberspace Association
> >       422b Beach Road
> >       Mairangi Bay
> >       Auckland,  1309
> >       New Zealand
> >       (649) 479-8110       Fax --
> >
> >    Domain servers in listed order:
> >       NS5.FASTER.CO.NZ
> >       NS6.FASTER.CO.NZ
> >
> >
> > Joe Baptista - only at www.baptista.god
> >
> >     dot.film domain registration http://www.register.film
> >     a member of the TLDA http://www.tlda.net/
> >
> > On Sat, 8 Feb 2003, Richard Henderson wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Joe:
> > >
> > > The membership list can be viewed at www.IcannatLarge.com or .org
> > >
> > > For a convenient breakdown, by country, I've listed the 
> membership 
> > > here:
> > >
> > > http://www.theinternetchallenge.com/memberswholelistnames.htm
> > >
> > > Or view by Region, here:
> > >
> > > http://www.theinternetchallenge.com/memberswholelist.htm
> > >
> > > Have a nice day -
> > >
> > > Richard H
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Joe Baptista <baptista@dot-god.com>
> > > To: Richard Henderson <richardhenderson@ntlworld.com>
> > > Cc: <ga@dnso.org>; <marc@fuchsia.bijt.net>
> > > Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 8:25 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [ga] Icann At Large Poll rejects RALOs and 
> ICANN's new 
> > > AtLargestructure
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, 8 Feb 2003, Richard Henderson wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > 171 people took part in the ballot.
> > > >
> > > > who are these 170 people or alledged 1000?  is there a 
> membership 
> > > > list.  i have more domain owners then you have members. 
>  and you 
> > > > consider that representative?
> > > >
> > > > who are these lost soals?
> > > >
> > > > regards
> > > > joe baptista
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > This was virtually the same as our last ballot to confirm our 
> > > > > name, when
> > > 170
> > > > > people voted.
> > > > >
> > > > > >From this you can deduce that, even though there 
> were a dozen 
> > > > > >quite
> > > detailed
> > > > > questions, the core of our membership wanted to get involved.
> > > > >
> > > > > They also expressed a clear majority wish for more polls and 
> > > > > regular
> > > polls.
> > > > >
> > > > > Clearly, with a membership of over 1000, you could ask "Where 
> > > > > are the
> > > rest?"
> > > > >
> > > > > But I think any group like ours attracts sympathetic watchers 
> > > > > who want
> > > to be
> > > > > members without getting drawn in too deep.
> > > > >
> > > > > Everyone can draw their own conclusions.
> > > > >
> > > > > The results are informative, as far as they go.
> > > > >
> > > > > They will help our organisation determine its future, 
> and they 
> > > > > are a
> > > green
> > > > > light to much more co-operation with other At Large 
> orgs around 
> > > > > the
> > > world,
> > > > > to build a coalition outside the unpopular ICANN 
> structure. They 
> > > > > also effectively stop any support from our 
> organisation for the 
> > > > > RALOs dead in
> > > its
> > > > > tracks.
> > > > >
> > > > > As far as the list of names to trust/mistrust goes, I did not 
> > > > > see this
> > > in
> > > > > advance, but I find it an interesting indicator of 
> opinion with 
> > > > > regard
> > > to
> > > > > Denise Michel and Esther Dyson's initiative. I don't 
> say this as 
> > > > > any personal criticism of the people involved. I just 
> think that 
> > > > > (taken with
> > > the
> > > > > other votes) it demonstrates the opposition that exists to a 
> > > > > "top down" ICANN agenda.
> > > > >
> > > > > At least we have actively initiated a "bottom up" process.
> > > > >
> > > > > It's a shame ICANN won't do the same. It's a shame 
> they chose to 
> > > > > EXPEL
> > > the
> > > > > elected representatives on their Board. No wonder the 
> grassroots 
> > > > > of the
> > > At
> > > > > Large don't trust them.
> > > > >
> > > > > Richard Henderson
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: Marc Schneiders <marc@fuchsia.bijt.net>
> > > > > To: <ga@dnso.org>
> > > > > Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 4:17 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re: [ga] Icann At Large Poll rejects RALOs 
> and ICANN's 
> > > > > new At Largestructure (fwd)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > I do not see the results published. I would be 
> interested in 
> > > > > > the
> > > number
> > > > > > who voted.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
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> > > > >
> > > > >
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