Re: [ga] retrieving expired .com names and transferring .ws names

["John Berryhill Ph.D. J.D." <john@johnberryhill.com>]

David,

You might want to look at the interim report of the Deletes Task Force.  Not
every registrar was providing a 30 day notice period, and people were
constantly whining about losing their domain names.  Hence, it is believed by
some that an additional 30 days will cause registrants (the greatest single
source of their own problems) to grow a clue.  These same clueless
registrants, who become positively livid if asked to reimburse expenses of a
subsequent registrant, will gladly roll over and pay extortionate fees from
registrars.  Barring that, they will glibly watch the whois, and think they
have a chance over Snapnames etc.

As you might appreciate, the wait-list service will provide a cheaper
alternative to fixing the very same problem IF the corresponding WLS slot is
not taken at the time the registrant realizes that he/she/it was too dumb to
pay a bill.

John

----- Original Message -----
From: "David Nelson" <davidn@NetworkCommerce.com>
To: "'Michael D. Palage'" <michael@palage.com>; <ga@dnso.org>
Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 5:28 PM
Subject: RE: [ga] retrieving expired .com names and transferring .ws names


>
> We're a reseller so my information on registry policy is spotty at best.
> But, In my experience the registrar will usually hold onto the domain for
> like 30 days to give the registrant an opportunity to renew it.  Why not
> just require that the registrar extend that period as opposed to sending it
> back to the registry...
>
> I've dealt with a few of these cases over the last few days and they've all
> been due to registrant error.  Our registrar will hold a domain for 30 to
45
> days after the expiration and does not charge us anything extra to renew it
> while in an expired status. With the exception of domains that are deleted
> due to registrar error, if you haven't noticed that you're domain's been
> down for a month well that's your own damn fault.  Why even both with this
> holding period?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael D. Palage [mailto:michael@palage.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 12:56 PM
> To: David Nelson; ga@dnso.org
> Subject: RE: [ga] retrieving expired .com names and transferring .ws
> names
>
>
> David,
>
> With regard to part 1 of your question, this part of the Redemption Grace
> Period (RGP) that was recently implemented by VeriSign in connection with
an
> approved policy by ICANN. There have been some implementation bumps
> experienced by both registrants and registrars in connection with this new
> policy. The registry fee for this service is $80 during the initial period,
> although it is scheduled to be lowered to I believe the $40 range. If you
> allow the name to expire, you run the risk that it could be acquired by a
> third party, thus opening up an additional can of worms.
>
> For some other third party information regarding RGP problems please see
the
> following article,
> http://www.icannwatch.org/article.pl?sid=03/02/17/2147258&mode=thread
>
> Some of the things that I would find of real value is how did this name
> expire. Was it your fault or an error/omission by the registrar or your
> hosting company? Did you have accurate Whois data associated with your
name?
> Was the name originally registered by yourself or through a third party?
>
> I would find the answers to these questions very informative in trying to
> identify the problems people are encountering in this situation.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Michael D. Palage
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-ga@dnso.org [mailto:owner-ga@dnso.org]On Behalf Of David
> > Nelson
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 3:07 PM
> > To: ga@dnso.org
> > Subject: [ga] retrieving expired .com names and transferring .ws names
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I haven't been able to find much information these questions and I'm
> > wondering if you guys can help.  I apologize if these questions
> > have already
> > been asked and answered, but I'm new to this listserv.
> >
> > 1.  The .com registry seems to have implemented a new policy where
they're
> > holding domain names for 30 days after being released by the
> > registrar, then
> > charging the registrant $200 to retrieve it from this status.  Does
anyone
> > have any information about why they can do that?  Or even better, is
there
> > any way around this besides waiting for the domain to be released?
> >
> > 2.  Does the .ws registry allow a transfer of registrar?  If so do any of
> > you know of any registrars that accept incoming transfers of .ws
> > names.  If
> > not, why?
> >
> >
> > Thanks for the help,
> >
> > -David
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