RE: [ga] ICANN Staff's at-large website

["Abel Wisman" <abel@able-towers.com>]

Vittorio,

You clearly fail to see that the moment you resigned, the maillist was
property of the remaining panellists, not yours to do with as you
please.
While being a panel member you had a limited right of access of that
list, which represent the member-list for the organisation.
By sending this list to non panel members and selectively upon your own
decision you have demonstrated a total disregard for simple democratic
rules, written or non-written.
You have willingly and purposly thrown the organisation of a cliff while
smiling in the rafters, making sure no election COULD take place by not
giving the maillist to the remainder of the panel.

If this is your idea of how to handle a position of trust and
resposibility then I pity the ALAC, no matter what I think of that, with
you as chairman and sincerely hope that ICANN has safeguarded her
brainchild from the likes of you.

No matter how you wiggle, you have only you to blame, the entire
organisation has you to blame, but I have no doubt you wont loose sleep
over it.

You in person have no legal rights to a passwd for a site of an
organisation you are no longer a panel member of, nor did you have the
right to share that passwd with anyone BUT the panel members, no mattter
how few were remaining and what their political agendas were.

Abel 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-ga@dnso.org [mailto:owner-ga@dnso.org] On Behalf 
> Of Vittorio Bertola
> Sent: 17 March 2003 16:44
> To: J-F C. (Jefsey) Morfin
> Cc: ga@dnso.org
> Subject: Re: [ga] ICANN Staff's at-large website
> 
> 
> On Mon, 17 Mar 2003 13:42:44 +0100, you wrote:
> 
> >2. Vittorio Bertola is the Chair of the WG-Web maintaining
> >     the site discussed by Joanna, being the only one
> >     having the password.
> 
> False. I gave the password to the watchdogs. And I am not 
> Chair of anything any more.
> 
> >3. there is a panel made of three not resigning Panelists
> >     including Vittorio Bertola, and there is a list of elected
> >     replacements that Viottorio refused to call. We will note
> >     that the last Panelist to resign were bored out by
> >     Vittorio innaction and that after the last resignation
> >     Vittorio ran a 8 days long vote of the Panel.
> 
> You fail to mention that the three not resigning Panelists, 
> including you, voted unanimously to have new elections rather 
> than call replacements in and continue working. I simply 
> applied what we decided. You could have voted against the 
> election if you didn't want the Panel to stop working.
> 
> >4. New elections are blocked because Vittorio Bertola
> >     made sure that the list of the Members would be
> >     given to two members with no mandate and no way
> >     to proceed, rather than to the Panel he chairs, as
> >     he publicly committed, and as any non ICANNer
> >     would do.
> 
> This was my decision (given the complete lack of rules about 
> what to do in this case) to ensure the exact opposite - that 
> elections would actually happen, and that the rest of the 
> Panel would not be able to cancel them. If there are 
> practical problems that prevent the election from happening, 
> I have said a number of times that I am available to help the 
> watchdogs.
> 
> >I thought that correcting a few erroneous details in the valuable 
> >communication of the ALAC Chair, could help better understanding the 
> >ICANN semantic. In ICANNers language NO means YES, etc. Once you 
> >understdood that, they become an as reliable source of information
> >as any other one.
> 
> Jefsey, I might say the same about you and all your dramatic 
> postings, with which apparently you are trying to put 
> pressure on me so that I give the list to you and you can 
> actually put your hands on the organization. Why can't we 
> simply have elections and let the members vote on who should 
> lead them, rather than you and Bruce ruling the organization 
> alone? There's no necessity for you to have the membership 
> list before the elections.
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