RE: [ga] 6000+ unique At Large Members?

["Michael Froomkin - U.Miami School of Law" <froomkin@law.miami.edu>]

the elections list can't be used -- ICANN always took the position that
privacy rules prohibited contacting those people by or for the GA...

On Wed, 23 Apr 2003, Joanna Lane wrote:

> ICANN really must reassure the Department of Commerce that it is not
> bolstering its credibility by falsely claiming interest that it does not in
> fact have. The 6000+ must be a typo, or how has Denise arrived at this
> number?
> 
> Conservatively, that has to be about 5,000 more people than have actually
> participated in the At Large debate since the end of the Elections in 2000.
> Of those registered at that time, many are now represented in the GNSO
> constituencies, on the ALAC itself and in ICANN Staff Offices. Even serious
> lobbying in the public fora by the most passionate of activists failed to
> raise more than, say, let's be generous, 1,000 at any one time on any list.
> So who are these 6,000 unique individuals exactly? Where are they from?
> 
> In total there have been 3 Announce lists for the At Large, each grown from
> the previous, with a large number of duplications between the lists as
> people rolled from one to the next, each shut down by ICANN in turn. ID
> verification is an unresolved problem as people joined these lists multiple
> times using different names and email addresses. What steps are ICANN Staff
> taking to protect the integrity of the lists they are compiling?
> 
> Even if the 6000+ number is correct, which is hard to believe, it is a
> matter of record that the vast majority were attracted by the opportunity to
> vote in an election. ICANN's abandonment of democratic foundations, viewed
> as a betrayal, has now manifested itself as zero interest in this new
> venture. In reality, prior interest is most definitely not ongoing from the
> At Large Lists of the past, especially for an organization that is not
> founded in democratic principles.
> 
> Did Denise take the original At Large electorate data for 2000 and subtract
> the number of emails that bounced on the ALSC Announce List? If so, that
> would confirm an impressive 90+% failure rate to foster At Large
> participation over the last 3 years.
> 
> For the record, the At Large Announce lists amount to these:-
> 
> 1) Year 2000: At Large Elections List, closed more than 2 years ago.
> 2) Year 2001: ALSC list, roughly 1,000+ rolled over from earlier list,
> numbers declined to a handful of participants when closed more than 1 year
> ago.
> 3) Year 2002: 100+ active participants from the 2001 list rolled over to
> ICANNAtLarge.com, originally funded by ICANN Staff under the leadership of
> Denise Michel. Membership grew to roughly 1000, of which only a handful
> remain active today.
> 
> By my calculations, that makes about 60 left, not 6,000.
> 
> Regards,
> Joanna
> 
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-ga@dnso.org [mailto:owner-ga@dnso.org] On Behalf Of
> > DannyYounger@cs.com
> > Sent: 22 April 2003 17:13
> > To: ga@dnso.org
> > Subject: [ga] 6000+ names
> >
> >
> > Just posted:
> >
> > ICANN's technical staff is working on combining past At-Large announce
> > lists (with 6000 + names) for the ALAC's use and an announce list
> > subscribe/un-subscribe mechanism for the ALAC's website.  I expect this
> > to be operational very soon.
> >
> > Denise
> >
> > http://forum.icann.org/mail-archive/alac/msg00189.html
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