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Re: [ga] Are the Falkland Islands and Bermuda in Europe?



Why shouldn't USER populations matter?  Why is land more significant than
people?

On Sun, 8 Jun 2003, Jeanette Hofmann wrote:

> On 8 Jun 2003 at 16:24, Marc Schneiders wrote:
> 
> > The 5 regions used by ICANN to ascertain geographical representation have
> > made me uncomfortable for several reasons. One of these is that they are
> > not nearly of equal size in whatever way you measure that size
> > (inhabitants, internet users, size of territory).
> 
> Dear Marc, it is not always size that matters.  
> > 
> > A few days ago a revised version of the allocation of countries and
> > territories has been put up on the ICANN website. It will be discussed in
> > Montreal.
> > 
> > http://www.icann.org/montreal/geo-regions-topic.html
> > 
> > If I understand it, Bermuda and the Falkland Islands are now in Europe.
> > The same is true for some French territories. Please, note that the
> > European Union does think that some of these countries/territories are
> > in Europe and others not. (http://europa.eu.int/abc/maps/index_nl.htm)
> > 
> > The reason seems to be the citizenship of the people who live there.  I
> > don't know about Bermuda and the Falklands, but the two former Dutch
> > colonies, which are also in 'Europe' now, elect their own parliament etc.
> > They are independent politically.  The Dutch government does not speak for
> > Aruba or the Netherlands Antilles. It fights with them occasionally.
> > 
> > Is this change to the regions not a step back to colonialism?
> > 
> > Anyway, what I would really like to see, is a more balanced regional
> > division. Look at the 'facts' (population and territory) of the present
> > regions within ICANN:
> > 
> > Asia-Pacific			3798		15,568
> > Africa                           840		11,698
> > Europa				 728		 8,875
> > Latin America-Caribbean		 531		 7,964
> > North America			 319		 7,699
> > 
> > (Source: http://www.prb.org/pdf/WorldPopulationDS02_Eng.pdf)
> 
> If you choose population as the criteria, half of the board should be determined 
> by Asia pacific. 
> 
> > 
> > The proposed changes don't influence these numbers much as they concern
> > mainly small islands. There is no improvement in them, as far as I can
> > see.
> > 
> > Some may find it important to take the number of internet users into
> > account. Here are some data (for what they are worth):
> > 
> > Europe          190
> > Asia/Pacific    187
> > US/Canada       183
> > Latin America   33
> > Africa          6
> > Middle East     5
> > 
> > (Source: http://www.nua.ie/surveys/how_many_online/)
> > 
> > This would suggest 3 regions not 5:
> > 
> > America                         216
> > Europe, Africa                  196
> > Asia/Pacific/Middle East        192
> 
> Your proposal implies a lack of independent representation for Africa and the 
> Middle East as well. In this sense, your model reproduces the digital divide. 
> 
> It also implies that the cut of regions would have to be adjusted quite often due to 
> changing user populations. Sounds like a lot of trouble to me. 
> 
> Besides, your "balanced regional division" lacks any notion of qualitative criteria 
> such as culture. 
> 
> Jeanette 
> 
> 
> > 
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