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Re: [ga] Are the Falkland Islands and Bermuda in Europe?
Why shouldn't USER populations matter? Why is land more significant than
people?
On Sun, 8 Jun 2003, Jeanette Hofmann wrote:
> On 8 Jun 2003 at 16:24, Marc Schneiders wrote:
>
> > The 5 regions used by ICANN to ascertain geographical representation have
> > made me uncomfortable for several reasons. One of these is that they are
> > not nearly of equal size in whatever way you measure that size
> > (inhabitants, internet users, size of territory).
>
> Dear Marc, it is not always size that matters.
> >
> > A few days ago a revised version of the allocation of countries and
> > territories has been put up on the ICANN website. It will be discussed in
> > Montreal.
> >
> > http://www.icann.org/montreal/geo-regions-topic.html
> >
> > If I understand it, Bermuda and the Falkland Islands are now in Europe.
> > The same is true for some French territories. Please, note that the
> > European Union does think that some of these countries/territories are
> > in Europe and others not. (http://europa.eu.int/abc/maps/index_nl.htm)
> >
> > The reason seems to be the citizenship of the people who live there. I
> > don't know about Bermuda and the Falklands, but the two former Dutch
> > colonies, which are also in 'Europe' now, elect their own parliament etc.
> > They are independent politically. The Dutch government does not speak for
> > Aruba or the Netherlands Antilles. It fights with them occasionally.
> >
> > Is this change to the regions not a step back to colonialism?
> >
> > Anyway, what I would really like to see, is a more balanced regional
> > division. Look at the 'facts' (population and territory) of the present
> > regions within ICANN:
> >
> > Asia-Pacific 3798 15,568
> > Africa 840 11,698
> > Europa 728 8,875
> > Latin America-Caribbean 531 7,964
> > North America 319 7,699
> >
> > (Source: http://www.prb.org/pdf/WorldPopulationDS02_Eng.pdf)
>
> If you choose population as the criteria, half of the board should be determined
> by Asia pacific.
>
> >
> > The proposed changes don't influence these numbers much as they concern
> > mainly small islands. There is no improvement in them, as far as I can
> > see.
> >
> > Some may find it important to take the number of internet users into
> > account. Here are some data (for what they are worth):
> >
> > Europe 190
> > Asia/Pacific 187
> > US/Canada 183
> > Latin America 33
> > Africa 6
> > Middle East 5
> >
> > (Source: http://www.nua.ie/surveys/how_many_online/)
> >
> > This would suggest 3 regions not 5:
> >
> > America 216
> > Europe, Africa 196
> > Asia/Pacific/Middle East 192
>
> Your proposal implies a lack of independent representation for Africa and the
> Middle East as well. In this sense, your model reproduces the digital divide.
>
> It also implies that the cut of regions would have to be adjusted quite often due to
> changing user populations. Sounds like a lot of trouble to me.
>
> Besides, your "balanced regional division" lacks any notion of qualitative criteria
> such as culture.
>
> Jeanette
>
>
> >
> >
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