RE: [ga] Transfer Protocol Perjury Stipulation

["Roeland M.J. Meyer" <rmeyer@mhsc.com>]

That was exactly my point. It was a direct slam against Kent.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeff Williams [mailto:jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 1999 12:49 AM
> To: rmeyer@mhsc.com
> Cc: domains@traveling.com; Nigel Roberts; ga@dnso.org
> Subject: Re: [ga] Transfer Protocol Perjury Stipulation
> Importance: High
>
>
> Roeland and all,
>
>   Indeed it does seem that LLNL or Lawrence livermore National
> Labs personnel had or have a english comprehension problem,
> euphemistically known as a Reading Impairment.  BTW, isn't
> LLNL where Kent Crispin works?  :(
>
> Roeland M.J. Meyer wrote:
>
> > Yes, and don't forget the constant redefinition of English; "That
> > depands on what the meaning of 'is' is.", indeed!
> >
> > Some of us seem to be taking direction from that as well.
> No wonder LLNL
> > has trouble.They can't even read a security directive straight.
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: owner-ga@dnso.org [mailto:owner-ga@dnso.org]On Behalf Of Rex
> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 1999 2:19 AM
> > > To: Nigel Roberts
> > > Cc: ga@dnso.org
> > > Subject: Re: [ga] Transfer Protocol Perjury Stipulation
> > >
> > >
> > > Remember Nigel,
> > >   Here in the US our president redefines the word
> "perjury" as he goes
> > > along.
> > >
> > > It seems to be catching on.
> > >
> > > Rex
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Nigel Roberts wrote:
> > > >
> > > > This also completely ignores the differences in legal
> systems around
> > > > the world.
> > > >
> > > > More North American-centric spin in my opinion.
> > > >
> > > > In the UK, perjury is lying to a court, or making
> > > > a knowingly untrue statement in something like
> > > > a Statutory Declaration (made before a Justice
> > > > of the Peace -- an unpaid magistrate -- or solicitor).
> > > >
> > > > Telling lies in a contract application form is a tort and
> > > > actionble in the civil courts (unless it is for credit in
> > > > which case it is the criminal offence of obtaining pecuniary
> > > > advantage by deception)
> > > >
> > > > So let's be sure here, are they implying that each domain
> > > applicant in
> > > > the UK will now have to make a Stat. Dec. (cost between
> $10 -$50)???
> > > >
> > > > Nigel Roberts
> > > > nigel@roberts.co.uk
> > > >
> > > > d3nnis wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Today's teleconference included a slightly scarey
> > > discussion regarding the advisability of
> > > > > clamping down on domain name registrants who flee to a
> > > new registrar to escape  a
> > > > > pending dispute or cease and desist letter.    The option
> > > of requiring registrant hoppers to
> > > > > sign a statement declaring themselves free of such
> > > baggage was given some very sharp teeth:
> > > > > the penalty of perjury.
> > > > >
> > > > > As an individual domain name owner I noticed acutely the
> > > absence of any spokesperson for my
> > > > > perspective on this issue.   So I include it here.
> > > > >
> > > > > The problem is one of balance.  If you require
> > > individuals to submit to a serious legal
> > > > > penalties for statements made relative to a trademark
> > > dispute, you should make an equal
> > > > > requirement on the trademark holder.   In all fairness,
> > > the presumption that an individual will lie
> > > > > should be no greater than the presumption that a large
> > > company will file a frivolous
> > > > > complaint with no basis in trademark infringement.
> > > > >
> > > > > I am not proposing a specific penalty that would be
> > > appropriate for a trademark holder
> > > > > who files a complaint without substance ...  just
> > > observing that the same salubrious effects achieved
> > > > > by applying penalties to individuals might well be
> > > accomplished with respect to companies -- a reduction
> > > > > in complaints.
> > > > >
> > > > > Dennis Schaefer
> > >
> > > --
> > >
>
> Regards,
>
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