Re: [ga] Privacy and Whois databases

["J. Baptista" <baptista@pccf.net>]

Hi Annie - we just got a question on this .. so here our cut an paste
reply.

Actually dot.satan and dot.god have a long history going back I think five
or more years.  The tld's have been used by the Peterborough Mission of
the Church of the Universe to identify good machines from bad machines.
Good machines which worked for the order were named whatever.god.
Machines that were flacky were named whatever.satan.

Both tld's have been administered by Earth-Nexus on behalf of the church
for the last 3 years and we got the contract to make it a public facility
about a year ago.   The tld's were populated about one year ago via an
announcement on irc.

Regards
Joe

On Mon, 18 Oct 1999, Annie Renard wrote:

> 
>  In your previous mail you wrote:
> 
> 	     The dot.god and dot.satan top level domains will both support
> 	     anonymous registrations.  
> 	 
> 	 I'm not familiar with dot.god and dot.satan and some web searches turn
> 	ed
> 	 up nothing.  Could you elucidate please?
> 	 
> 	     Any addressing information is between the
> 	     registrar and the domain holder, and not the business of anyone el
> 	se.
> 	 
> 	 May I ask on what basis you make this statement?  
> 	 
> 	 The agreement that registrars make with ICANN
> 	    http://www.icann.org/nsi/icann-raa-28sept99.htm
> 	 says in Part F, Public Access to Data on SLD Registrations
> 	 that the `name and postal address of the SLD holder' must be listed/ma
> 	de
> 	 available in whois.   Admittedly `holder' is somewhat vague and you
> 	 might be able to argue that this could be the registrar or some agent
> 	 registration, on behalf of the person/organization who actually reques
> 	ted
> 	 the domain name and will own it.
> 
> no, the SLD holder MUST be the registrant (admin contact in the organization
> requesting the domain name) which own the domain name, not the registrar.
> There are many problems with some registrars which "keep" the registered
> domaine name and the registrant have big difficulties to delegate its 
> domain name to another registrar.
> 	 
> 	 I hope so.  I'd very much prefer to not list the domain name owner
> 	 contact information, and am searching for arguments to help our legal
> 	 folks buy into the idea.
> 	 
> in the WHOIS database we need "professional" information of the
> administrative contact in its organisation, not some "private" information.
> 
> ---
>         Annie Renard    [nic@nic.fr]
>         AFNIC/NIC France
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