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[nc-idn] Re: Minutes from the NC IDN call on 3 Dec
- To: Elisabeth Porteneuve <Elisabeth.Porteneuve@cetp.ipsl.fr>, nc-idn@dnso.org
- Subject: [nc-idn] Re: Minutes from the NC IDN call on 3 Dec
- From: Marc Blanchet <Marc.Blanchet@viagenie.qc.ca>
- Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2001 22:04:07 -0500
- cc: Glen de Saint Gery et Philippe Renaut <DNSO.Secretariat@dnso.org>, DannyYounger@cs.com, Harald Tveit Alvestrand <Harald@Alvestrand.no>, Philip.Sheppard@aim.be, Richard.Delmas@cec.eu.int, "Harald Tveit Alvestrand, IETF Chair" <alvestrand@cisco.com>, "Chuck Gomes, VeriSign" <cgomes@verisign.com>, Cynthia Martin <cmartin@verisign.com>, Bret Fausett <fausett@lextext.com>, Michael Aisenberg <maisenberg@verisign.com>, Marilyn Cade <mcade@att.com>, Michael Palage <michael@palage.com>, "Masanobu Katoh, ICANN Board" <mkatoh@mkatoh.net>, "Patrik Falstrom, IETF" <paf@cisco.com>, "Pat Kane, VeriSign" <pkane@verisign.com>, "Scott Hollenbeck, VeriSign" <shollenbeck@verisign.com>, "Tinwee Tan, MINC" <tinwee@bic.nus.edu.sg>
- In-Reply-To: <200112050016.BAA15973@balsa.cetp.ipsl.fr>
- References: <200112050016.BAA15973@balsa.cetp.ipsl.fr>
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Elisabeth,
some suggested corrections to the minutes. Corrections tagged with MB:.
s/word1/word2/ means substitute word1 by word2.
Marc.
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* It is an application based processing, the user will type in
the language and script of his domain name, the application will process it
and convert it into ASCII. This is sent to the DNS resolution for an answer
and IP address.
MB: s/for an answer and IP address/for an answer, usually an IP address/
...
Currently the WG is discussing additional steps - the
actualisation for Asian languages and handling the Chinese language.
MB: s/the actualisation for Asian languages and handling the Chinese
language/optimisations for Asian languages and some specifics about the
Chinese language/
Next step is to reach consensus on remaing items, likely to be
at the ITF in Salt Lake City. A solution will be sought with either IDN or
IDN +John Kleinsen's proposal.
MB: remove: /A solution will be sought with either IDN or IDN+John
Klensin's proposal./
MB: add a new paragraph:
John Klensin's proposal based on upper layers over DNS will be discussed
in a Birds-of-a-Feather session (irnss) in Salt Lake City IETF. This bof
could influence the way idn handle complex language issues that can't be
done in DNS.
MB: add a new paragraph:
If a consensus happens in Salt Lake City, then the following steps will
happen:
* Validate the consensus on mailing lists.
* Send the documents to the ISC and receive comments.
MB: s/ISC/IESG/
ISC will send these to IETF.
MB: s/ISC will send these to IETF/IESG will then do an IETF-wide last call/
IETF process will take time even if a decision is reached in Salt Lake
City.
MB:s/decision/wg consensus/
Publishing as RFC will follow and it will become an IETF
standard.
Choose a prefix.
MB: At the time of the RFC publication, the prefix identifying the idn will
be chosen.
* In conclusion: the technical issues are converging, the work is
not yet finished, there is no standard, deployment must wait until the work
is finished and the RFC is published.
The winter or spring are foreseen as the timeline for
deployment.
MB: s/timeline for deployment/timeline for RFC publication, so deployment
might start at that time/
* Katoh asked about the two ways of thinking currently prevailing
in ICANN, The John Kleinsen approach which implies layers over the DNS, so
that there is more flexibilty in handling language issues and the IDN
approach.
MB: s/Kleinsen/Klensin/
Nothing can be said until the RFC comes out.
MB: s/Nothing can be said until the RFC comes out/The two approaches may be
complementary. Work of the idn wg is currently related to the idn approach.
John Klensin's proposal surely have more flexibility in handling language
issues/
MB: final note about terminology: Verisign presentation identifies the
internet-drafts the idn wg is working on, as IETF standards. This may be
misleading to the reader, since an internet-draft is a work in progress
document and is by no means an IETF standard.
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