RE: [nc-transfer] [Fwd: RE: Redemption Grace Periods for Deleted Names]

["Neuman, Jeff" <Jeff.Neuman@neustar.us>]

There are a number of authentication/technical questions related to the
allowance of inter-registrar transfers during the redemption grace period.
As just one issue that needs to be explored, how does a "gaining registrar"
prove to the registry that the person claiming to be the registrant (that
had his or her domain name deleted) is actually the original registrant?
Plus, there is at this point a greater chance of Registrars gaming the
system, if inter-registrar transfers are allowed.

There are technical ways to address the above issues in the thick registries
by relying on a quasi-EPP solution, but in the .com, .net and .org spaces
(at least currently), there is no easy technical solution.

This issue is, I believe solvable, but one that will need to have the input
of a technical team as well as a policy team.

This is just one issue that can arise.  I would be happy to discuss this
further during our next call.

Jeff

-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Steinberg [mailto:synthesis@videotron.ca]
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 8:53 PM
To: Transfer TF (E-mail)
Cc: DannyYounger@cs.com; Cade,Marilyn S - LGA
Subject: [nc-transfer] [Fwd: RE: Redemption Grace Periods for Deleted
Names]



My pleasure.

-------- Original Message --------
From: "Cade,Marilyn S - LGA" <mcade@att.com>
Subject: RE: Redemption Grace Periods for Deleted Names
To: <DannyYounger@cs.com>, "Dan Steinberg (E-mail)"
<synthesis@videotron.ca>
CC: <ga@dnso.org>

Excellent questions. Dan, can you forward to the Transfer Task Force?

Thanks... good idea to address this very early... we had just started
trying
to sort through the linkage, Danny, but your insights are very helpful.

Marilyn

-----Original Message-----
From: DannyYounger@cs.com [mailto:DannyYounger@cs.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 6:28 PM
To: Cade,Marilyn S - LGA
Cc: ga@dnso.org
Subject: Redemption Grace Periods for Deleted Names 


Marilyn,

I have a question regarding one aspect of the work of your Transfers
Task 
Force concerning inter-registrar transfers during the Delete Pending
period.  

The Technical Steering Group's Implementation Proposal "determined that
it 
would not be practical to implement inter-registrar transfers of deleted 
names in Stage 1. Instead, it is proposed that six months after this 
Redemption Grace Period Proposal is adopted, ICANN's President should 
re-convene this (or a similar) Technical Steering Group to review the 
implementation of the Redemption Grace Period, to suggest possible 
improvements to the Redemption Grace Period, and to develop a
specification 
for Stage 2 of the implementation of the Redemption Grace Period, which
will 
enable registrants to choose the �EURoerestoring�EUR� registrar.'

The Technical Steering Group believed that "allowing registrants to
choose 
the redeeming registrar will introduce numerous technical and
operational 
complications into the system", and "that the best course of action
would be 
to reserve implementation of registrar choice until a second stage".

Do the members of your TF share the assessment of the Technical Steering 
Group that such considerations should be postponed another six months? 
Will 
your TF examine this issue, or will it defer the matter to the Steering
Group 
as proposed above?  I would think that when a registrant has found 
himself/herself in need of the Redemption Grace Period that a fair
amount of 
enmity would exist between the registrant and the current registrar...
in 
such circumstances, might it not be appropriate to expeditiously
facilitate a 
transfer?