[nc-transfer] Fw: [registrars] Use of proxies for WHOIS entries and impact on transfer policy

["Ross Wm. Rader" <ross@tucows.com>]

TF Members:

Bruce Tonkin raises a significant and potentially "lethal" point that I
currently do not have a proposal outlining how we might deal with this.
Please read the correspondence below for complete details.

                     -rwr

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ross Wm. Rader" <ross@tucows.com>
To: "Bruce Tonkin" <Bruce.Tonkin@melbourneit.com.au>; <registrars@dnso.org>
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2002 9:00 PM
Subject: Re: [registrars] Use of proxies for WHOIS entries and impact on
transfer policy


> Bruce gets the prize for finding the first significant loophole in the
> policy. :)
>
> You are indeed correct Bruce. Proxied information breaks this
requirement...
>
> "The Administrative Contact and the Registrant, as outlined in the Losing
> Registrar's publicly accessible Whois service have the sole authority to
> approve or deny a transfer request to the Gaining Registrar. In all cases,
> the wishes of the Registrant supercede those of the Administrative
Contact."
>
> This creates a hole large enough to drive a permanent NACK through...
>
> (these are the relevant definitions from the doc...)
>
> Contact, Administrative: The administrative contact is an individual, role
> or organization authorized to interact with the registry or registrar on
> behalf of the Domain Holder. The administrative contact should be able to
> answer non-technical questions about the domain name's registration and
the
> Domain Holder. In all cases, the Administrative Contact is viewed as the
> authoritative point of contact for the domain name, second only to the
> Domain Holder.
>
> Domain Holder (Registrant): The individual or organization that registers
a
> specific domain name. This individual or organization holds the right to
use
> that specific domain name for a specified period of time, provided certain
> conditions are met and the registration fees are paid. This person or
> organization is the "legal entity" bound by the terms of the relevant
> service agreement with the registry operator for the TLD in question.
>
> Any proposals as to how we can best fix this? I will forward substantive
> input to the TF.
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>                      -rwr
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bruce Tonkin" <Bruce.Tonkin@melbourneit.com.au>
> To: <registrars@dnso.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2002 8:37 PM
> Subject: [registrars] Use of proxies for WHOIS entries and impact on
> transfer policy
>
>
> > Hello All,
> >
> > I can see the merits in using proxies to help fight against unsolicited
> > marketing.
> >
> > However it has the potential to break part of the proposed transfers
> > process.
> >
> > e.g if a registrar acts as the admin contact, it would make it difficult
> for
> > a gaining registrar to confirm the transfer with the registrant.
> >
> > In such a situation the registry might need to maintain centrally a
> contact
> > for the actual registrant, and accredited registrars could retrieve that
> > contact for the purpose of a authenticating a transfer request.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Bruce
>