I think we need a strong moderator !!! But not from the NC as it seems that people won't agree on that. And may be the committee on Working rles and procedures could help to fix that problem. Jean-Michel Bécar becar@etsi.fr http://www.etsi.org E.T.S.I. Project Manager Tel: +(33) (0)4 92 94 43 15 Fax: +(33) (0)4 92 38 52 15