Re: [Fwd: Re: [registrars] [Fwd: [nc-intake] Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 08:47:30 -0500]]

[Larry Erlich <erlich@domainregistry.com>]

Sam Fleitman wrote:
> 
> The way I understand it, some people are able to obtain a "list" of all
> domain names that are going to be deleted and at what time on what day.
> Then, it's just a matter of culling through the list for all the "good"
> domains, and at the given hour, start hammering away at the SRS to try to
> register the name.
> 
> If such a list were not available,

The list is not supplied by NSI but by third party
websites that analyse and cross reference different
data that is freely available. Some of it from
NSI (root zone file) and some from other registrars including
NSI Registrar(whois data).

You can simply monitor the
root zone file changes and knowing the 5 day
rule and/or various hold periods easily
predict names that are going to be
deleted and on what particular morning. 
(Many times there is more to take into account
that this but that is the general idea.)

Larry Erlich

http://www.DomainRegistry.com




> would it be worth the effort to these
> people to try to obtain the expirey dates of "good" domain names?
> 
> Since we don't participate in that type of activity, I'm not sure of the
> value vs effort for the potential opportunities.
> 
> Sam F
> samf@catalog.com
> 
> On Thu, 19 Jul 2001, Larry Erlich wrote:
> 
> > Someone had written to me and asked if
> > I felt that the problem is with Verisign
> > Registrar, because they don't play by the
> > same rules as the rest of us.
> >
> > To clarify, and to be fair to Verisign Registrar, here
> > is my response to that question:
> >
> > The Verisign Registrar problem is actually a separate issue
> > but I don't think that if that was solved it would stop this.
> > In other words, what would happen is that people would simply monitor
> > the expiration date in the whois and know that Verisign
> > Registrar would delete the name 45 days after the expiration
> > date (as listed in the whois) as opposed to 5 days after
> > it drops from the root zone file, or the registry
> > whois date is updated.
> >
> > I think the only solution is a "waiting list" round robin thing
> > for domain names which would also be a
> > revenue source for registrars taking applications
> > for names that might be deleted.
> >
> > Larry Erlich
> >
> > http://www.DomainRegistry.com
> >
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