[registrars] Re: [RegistrarsList] A few solutions

["David Wascher" <dwascher@iaregistry.com>]

Donny,
This grabbing of expired names was going on well before the registrars came
on board. They just submitted email registration to NSI on that same day.
When the Registrars came online the players left the email form and went out
to the real time system. Any of the registrars that provide a 1-step bulk
registration option was / is being used for this purpose. At first it was a
manual cut and paste into the HTML form and a mouse click. Then scripting
the HTML form replaced the manual step. As that got to slow then the players
went to special backends where they submit lists of names.

The real people that submit list of names (players) for a living will
register about 300 - 800 domains this away.

David W.
Manager IARegistry
----- Original Message -----
From: "Donny Simonton" <donny@intercosmos.com>
To: "Registrarsdnso org" <Registrars@dnso.org>
Cc: <registrars@verisign-grs.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2001 10:31 PM
Subject: [RegistrarsList] A few solutions


I'm new here so forgive me if I step on any toes.

The reason that the registry is limiting the number of connections that each
registrar can have and no longer releasing domains is because of the
registrars that having created this new expired domain market.  Registrars
that have been selling domains as normal have been the ones that have been
hurt the most here.  I still can't believe that a registrar would risk
having their accreditation pulled for maybe 50 domains a day?

We had one of these expired domain hunters talk to me for about 2 hours the
other day about how he wanted us to design a system for him.  He gave me all
of the details on how it works, who the registrars are that are currently
registering the domains during the "dumps" (his way of saying the domains
are released), and even the time the scripts started on the registrars
servers.  After he told me that he would only get about 10-20 domains a
week, I told him I was not interested in setting up the system for him.  I
did ask him why he only told he would only get about 10-20 domains with us a
week, he explained that he supplies his list to a few registrars every time
he gets a list and they all submit the list for him at the same time, so
each registrar will only get a few domains per domain dump.

Then he told me about the registrar that supplies their speculators with a
list of domains expiring tomorrow.  Then they are allowed to bid on how much
they would pay for the domain if the registrar was about to register the
domain.  He told me about winning a domain the week before for $950.

Anybody want names of the registrars doing this?  Actually why doesn't the
registry supply us with the names of the registrars bringing down the system
every time there is a domain dump?

The easy way to solve this whole problem is to shut those registrars down
that are causing the problems!  I know who they are, the registry knows who
they are, and so do the registrars!   It's real easy, they are violating
their contract with Verisign so shut them down!  But for some reason the
simple solution never gets done.

Another option is to allow the domains to drop but drop them at the exact
the time they were registered.  So if the domain was supposed to expire at
8:24:34 release the domain at that time.  Another added twist is to never
release the domain on the exact day the domain is supposed to released.  If
the domain is supposed to be released tomorrow, release it Tuesday.
Randomize it.  Shock some of the speculators and release a domain a day
early.  This is not very hard!  I'll write the program myself!

The lottery system that some have proposed will not work.  Look at the
Sunrise system for .info, everybody thought it would work just fine.  And
that's a huge mess.  And what about .biz, aren't they getting sued over
having a lottery system in the state of California?

The last time I checked we were all domain name registrars and not a group
of lottery owners.  Let's stick to what we do best and sell domains the way
we are supposed to sell domains.

Donny Simonton
directNIC.com









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