[registrars] RE: [RegistrarsList] Update: Listing of Deleted Domain Names to FTP site

["David Wascher" <dwascher@iaregistry.com>]

Rick,
The posted deleted list does not need to be made available to the registrars
at all. The competition is not between the registrars but between the
consumers who make this their business and understand these drops. Part of
the edge that the consumer has is how they parse the zone files for the
list. That information is already known as long as the method of deletes
persist in this manor. By publishing this list to all the registrars, which
in turn publish the list to their consumers which were never interested in
the deletes are now prone to make a request for the domain.

What use to be a limited commodity for the consumers used selected
registrars to hit NSI has now increased 10 fold.
1) More consumers that previously did not have the means to parse the zone
files now have access.
2) More registrars being asked to register names that have not previously
been in this manor could be adversely effecting themselves from doing normal
business. This could include such things as limiting or depleting their own
system resources and network bandwidth.
3) More requests will be issued to NSI for the same name which is what is
causing the system performance issue at NSI.

I would like to restate that the root of the problem was not started with
the registrars, but has been going on well before the registrars where
created. It is the way that NSI deletes name back into the general public
pool.

Thanks,
David W. IARegistry

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-registrars@verisign-grs.com
> [mailto:owner-registrars@verisign-grs.com]On Behalf Of Rick H Wesson
> Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 8:54 PM
> To: VeriSign Global Registry Services
> Cc: registrars@verisign-grs.com; Registrars List; Louis Touton;
> rc-excom@ar.com; Gomes Chuck
> Subject: Re: [RegistrarsList] Update: Listing of Deleted Domain Names to
> FTP site
>
>
>
> VeriSign:
>
> The ICANN Registrars would like to request that VeriSign Registry continue
> to publish the batched delete report until such a time that the
> registrars, VeriSign, and ICANN have agreeded on a long term resolution to
> the batched domain delete issue.
>
> The registrars are continuing to analyze the current situation and the
> VeriSign Registry short term resolution. If the reports are pulled before
> our analysis of the situation is complete it may hurt further progress on
> the issue. Since this issue has come to a head several registrars are
> evaluating entering the market for deleted domains, and if the reports are
> pulled prematurely it may also hurt those registrars that are evaluating
> the business model.
>
> It is not our place to determine the worthiness of the business model
> built on selling deleted or backordered domains; however, I believe that
> continuing to publish the report will benefit all during our policy
> development phase to create a long term solution to this problem.
>
> We have done some preliminary analysis on the first 8 days the
> deletes were published. Approximately 95% of the batch deleted domains
> are a result of VeriSign Registrar deleting names outside of the 45
> day grace period. Listed below are the top 5 registrars share of the
> deleted domains during our 8 day analysis.
>
> whois.networksolutions.com      119335  94.645718
> whois.registrars.com            3012    2.388846
> whois.activeisp.com             1003    0.795489
> whois.schlund.de                918     0.728074
> whois.corenic.net               466     0.369589
>
> We believe that All registrars should have equitable access to evaluate
> the domains deleted during the batch delete process. VeriSign Registry
> removing the reports and developing a temporary resolution without any
> registrar input is hampering our efforts in developing a consensus policy
> on this issue.
>
> Registrars formally request Verisign to re-institute the publishing of
> the batch delete queue, and the reports be available before the delete
> process is executed.
>
> Rick Wesson
> CTO - DNSO Registrars Constituency
>
>
> On Wed, 29 Aug 2001, VeriSign Global Registry Services wrote:
>
> > To All Registrars:
> >
> > VeriSign Global Registry Services will no longer be posting the list of
> > deleted domain names to the registrars FTP site effective immediately.
> >
> > If you require additional information, please contact Customer
> Service at
> > info@verisign-grs.com.
> >
> > Best Regards,
> >
> > Chris Sheridan
> > Manager, Customer Service
> > VeriSign Global Registry Services
> > www.verisign-grs.com
> > info@verisign-grs.com
> >
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