Re: [registrars] Call for European Registrar rep on ICANN WHOIS committee

["Paul M. Kane" <Paul.Kane@REACTO.com>]

Elana Broitman wrote:

> Pul - I understand the involvement of the EU on these issues, but certainly
> they are not the only body interested in this issue.  Why do you believe
> that the representative needs to be so EU-focused?

The EU is "leading" the world on this issue.  So far, Canada, Argentina, Israel,
Japan, (and others) have followed the EU "template" .... if one gives "guidance"
to the EU it makes life _much_ easier in the longer term to the Registrar
Community....

When I leave, there will be NO other European representatives on the Committee.
Remember if member states start enforcing the Data Protection Directive, it
impacts ALL registrars even those not from the EU if they want to deal with
European Registrants..

> Whom would you have in
> mind?

I wish a European Registrars would speak up!! Some made very detailed
submissions to the WHOIS Committee, but it would be improper of me to try to
manipulate their participation. If no European registrar (with detailed knowldge
in this area steps forward) then at least one tried..... but it's a steep
learning curve for somone not familiar with the Data Proction acts.

> Are you sure this person doesn't need to be a member of the NC?

Certain.  We already have non-NC members on the WHOIS Committee
In addition I drafted the "rules" of participation on Committees, Task Forces
etc in my capacity of Chair of the NC Procedures Task Force....

Best

Paul



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul M. Kane [mailto:Paul.Kane@REACTO.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 3:46 PM
> To: ross@tucows.com
> Cc: Elana Broitman; mike palage; registrars@dnso.org
> Subject: [registrars] Call for European Registrar rep on ICANN WHOIS
> committee
>
> No disrespect to Ken but I believe it is _necessary_ to have a European
> Registrar (lawyer) on the WHOIS Committee. The WHOIS Committee is just one
> (important) aspect, but can be used as a lever to address other issues.
>
> Ken is already involved on many Committees and the WHOIS Committee is not
> one
> where the representative can sit back, but does need to be in very regular
> contact with officers at the European Commission - (and I don't mean
> Wilkinson
> or Delmas) and knows his/her way around. There are 3000 survey responses to
> be
> reviewed, that takes dedicated time.....
>
> The representative needs to be a "heavy hitter" at the EU level - else life
> for
> ALL registrars wanting to conduct business in Europe will find life very
> difficult. Wearing my other "hats" I have been active in the Safe Harbour
> Agreement, the CyberCrime Act, liberalizing VAT on electronic services (you
> may
> recall the EU wants to collect VAT from EVERY Registrar, even those based
> outside the EU) and just today for example the European Commission wants to
> stop
> the use of cookies. See
> http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,48025,00.html
>
> Europe Goes After the Cookie
>    Reuters
>    6:20 a.m. Oct. 31, 2001 PST
>
>    LONDON -- The "cookie," a simplistic identification tag that most
>    Internet users unknowingly carry when surfing the Web, runs the risk
>    of being outlawed under a proposed privacy directive from the
> European  Commission.
>
> The representative does not need to be a member of the NC ... and Registrar
> representative will suffice, but they must be willing to put the hours in
> for
> the benefit of the community "pro-bono" ...
>
> Best
>
> Paul
>
> "Ross Wm. Rader" wrote:
>
> > I'd also like to add that whatever additional resources that we can bring
> to
> > bear in support of Ken are also available at his request. Combined with
> > Elana's offer of support, the resources of the Excomm and the input of the
> > rest of the task force, I am sure that we can close this issue in a timely
> > manner to the benefit of all involved.
> >
> > -rwr
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Elana Broitman" <ebroitman@register.com>
> > To: "mike palage" <michael@palage.com>
> > Cc: "paul kane" <paul.kane@reacto.com>; "Ross Wm. Rader"
> <ross@tucows.com>;
> > <registrars@dnso.org>
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 12:01 PM
> > Subject: FW: [nc-whois] Next steps.....
> >
> > > Mike and all - Ross and I recommend that we nominate Ken Stubbs as
> Paul's
> > > replacement.  I believe that is important for registrars to remain at
> the
> > > head of this TF because Whois issues are so key to all of our
> businesses.
> > > Ken has a historical perspective, he can fairly represent the various
> > > registrar interests, and has a good working relationship with the
> > different
> > > interested constituencies in order to make progress.
> > >
> > > To the extent that Ken might need any technical support on Whois issues,
> I
> > > am certain that our company and others will be happy to provide such
> > > support.
> > >
> > > If others agree, we should send the registrars' proposal to Phillip as
> > soon
> > > as possible since Tony's proposal was sent over a week ago.
> > >
> > > Best,
> > >
> > > Elana
> > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Antonio Harris [mailto:harris@cabase.org.ar]
> > > > > Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 5:28 PM
> > > > > To: Paul M. Kane; WHOIS Committee - DNSO
> > > > > Subject: RE: [nc-whois] Next steps.....
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Paul,
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks for all your good work.
> > > > >
> > > > > I would like to propose Marylin Cade as chair to
> > > > > replace Paul when he has to leave.
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards
> > > > >
> > > > > Tony Harris
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >