Re: [registrars] expiry date and creation date dont match

["Ross Wm. Rader" <ross@tucows.com>]

It would also make it difficult for registrants to repatriate hijacked
names..."sorry sir, you have to wait sixty days to get your name back..."

-rwr

----- Original Message -----
From: "Nezih Erkman" <nezih@erkman.com>
To: "Registrars Constituency" <registrars@dnso.org>
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 3:04 PM
Subject: Re: [registrars] expiry date and creation date dont match


> I would like to see 60 days lock on registrar transfer. This would stop
> "registrar hoping" technique used by CC thieves.
>
> Nezih Jack Erkman
> R & K GBS, Inc.
> 000Domains.com
> Cell: 501-779-1934
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rob Hall" <rob@momentous.ca>
> To: "Registrars Mail List" <registrars@dnso.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 12:45 PM
> Subject: RE: [registrars] expiry date and creation date dont match
>
>
> > I think there are cases where you would both want the 60 days and some
> cases
> > where you would not want it.
> >
> > Rather than a standard across registrars, I would prefer to have some
> > flexibility here.
> >
> > I agree with Tim that in most cases of a change of ownership it is
> agreeable
> > to keep it for a period of time.
> >
> > However, there are cases where the transfer of ownership was due to a
> > dispute, such as a UDRP result.  In cases like these, we would not want
to
> > have to lock the customer down for the 60 days.
> >
> > So my preference would be to not create a mandatory standard, but to
leave
> > it to the registrars discretion as to whether to implement one and in
what
> > cases.
> >
> > Rob.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-registrars@dnso.org [mailto:owner-registrars@dnso.org]On
> > Behalf Of Tim Ruiz
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 11:32 AM
> > To: registrars@dnso.org
> > Subject: Re: [registrars] expiry date and creation date dont match
> >
> >
> > Patrick,
> >
> > Actually, I think the 60 day hold on transfers when a domain changes
> > ownership is a good idea. We are considering that ourselves. Especially
> > since our experience has been that not all registrars are as cooperative
> as
> > we try to be when something goes wrong. If the domain is still with us
> when
> > am issue arises over a change of ownership, we will be in a much better
> > position to correct any errors.
> >
> > Tim
> >
> >  -------- Original Message --------
> >    Subject: Re: [registrars] expiry date and creation date dont match
> >    From: Patrick <dnso-reg@gandi.net>
> >    Date: Wed, April 10, 2002 7:27 am
> >    To: "Registrars@Dnso. Org" <registrars@dnso.org>
> >
> >    On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 09:38:36PM +0530, Bhavin Turakhia took time
to
> >    write:
> >    > can anyone tell me when would something like this happen -
> >    >
> >    >    DOMAIN: kinminks.com
> >    >    Record last updated on 25-Mar-2002.
> >    >    Record expires on 04-Sep-2002.
> >    >    Record created on 25-Mar-2002.
> >    >
> >    > note that the record is created on 25-Mar-2002, but expires on
> >    > 4th-Sep-2002 - which is less than a year
> >    >
> >    > Additoinal info:
> >    >
> >    > * the domain is currently regstered with netsol
> >    >
> >    > * the domain was earlier with namezero
> >
> >    AFAIK this means the owner name was changed.
> >
> >    Netsol changes the creation date with an ownership change, and then
> >    refuses to transfer domain names (rule of 60 days). I already asked
> >    ICANN about this, and they seem to be OK with that.
> >
> >    But we had many customers with Namezero : they asked for a
> >    change of ownership (to be able later on to do the transfer),
> >    which was done late by Namezero/Netsol, thus the domain was near
> >    expired, and unable to be transfered to us.
> >
> >    Patrick Mevzek.
> >    Gandi.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>