RE: [registrars] Interim Transfer Proposal

["Tim Ruiz" <tim@godaddy.com>]

It's unfortunate and discouraging that after several attempts to clarify our
views on this matter that our TF Rep feels that this "minority" view is just
a matter of personal convenience.

If our customers understood enough to come to our site, register a domain,
agree to the registration agreement, all written in English, then it would
certainly be a logical assumption that they should be able to understand
other English instructions.

But I won't argue this matter any further in this forum. It's clear that the
Transfers TF is intent on imposing policy that, in my opinion, goes beyond
business rules and begins to attempt to control business models. Such
policies are contrary to the ICANN charge to encourage competition. Let's
hope ICANN sees this clearly. Unfortunately, as well intended as Chuck may
have been, the interim policy that he is suggesting has the same flaws since
it is based primarily on the work of the Transfers TF.

Tim

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-registrars@dnso.org [mailto:owner-registrars@dnso.org]On
Behalf Of Ross Wm. Rader
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2002 9:02 AM
To: 'Robert F. Connelly'; 'Chuck Gomes'
Cc: 'Registrar Constituency'
Subject: RE: [registrars] Interim Transfer Proposal


I'm not sure I understand your statement Bob. It would strike me that a
losing registrar that n'acks a transfer request because of the lack of
response by the admin or registrant would work against you given the
differences in languages. What I mean is that if you, as the gaining
registrar, have received authorization from the registrant, then the
lack of a response by the registrant to the losing registrar (who might
use an english only notice) should not be a reason for denial - which is
what the process that Chuck has put forward describes.

Tucows would be disappointed if this reason was removed from the list of
non-allowable reasons for the sake of convenience of a minority of
registrars.



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> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-registrars@dnso.org
> [mailto:owner-registrars@dnso.org] On Behalf Of Robert F. Connelly
> Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2002 6:17 PM
> To: Chuck Gomes
> Cc: Registrar Constituency
> Subject: [registrars] Interim Transfer Proposal
>
>
> Dear Chuck:  I'm sorry that this feature is at risk.  Due to language
> problems, our greatest problem is from non English speakers
> who do not
> understand the Email received from their registraR and do not
> respond to
> it.  This is the source of the vast majority of the nacks against our
> requests for transfer of sponsorship.
>
> Regards, BobC
>
> o       No response from registrant/admin contact unless the losing
> registrar shows evidence of instructions from registrant/admin to do
> so.  (Comment: early feedback indicates that the chances of
> achieving the
> broadest and quickest acceptance of this proposal would be
> significantly
> increased if this bullet was deleted at this time; as
> everyone understands
> already, this is the biggest sticking point in the transfer
> debate and the
> one that will be the most difficult to resolve to the
> satisfaction of most
> parties; recognizing this and also recognizing that bilateral
> agreements
> approved only by registrars who are already operating by most of the
> conditions in this approval would not add much value to any
> registrars, it
> seems like it would be better to delete it now so that the
> benefits of the
> rest of the proposal could be realized quickly.)
>
>