Re: [registrars] Use of proxies for WHOIS entries and impact on transfer policy
Why is anything broken? The proxy would no doubt have this covered with the party involved. It is between them. As registrars, we deal with the registrant and admin contact of record, period. If we begin to get concerned with what other contractual arrangements may or may not exist, we are going get to bogged down with a bunch of red tape that just isn't necessary. This policy should be a set of business rules, not a mechanism to attempt to steer us into one particular business model or another. At least that is my HO. Tim -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [registrars] Use of proxies for WHOIS entries and impact on transfer policy From: "Ross Wm. Rader" <ross@tucows.com> Date: Tue, September 24, 2002 6:00 pm To: "Bruce Tonkin" <Bruce.Tonkin@melbourneit.com.au>, <registrars@dnso.org> Bruce gets the prize for finding the first significant loophole in the policy. :) You are indeed correct Bruce. Proxied information breaks this requirement... "The Administrative Contact and the Registrant, as outlined in the Losing Registrar's publicly accessible Whois service have the sole authority to approve or deny a transfer request to the Gaining Registrar. In all cases, the wishes of the Registrant supercede those of the Administrative Contact." This creates a hole large enough to drive a permanent NACK through... (these are the relevant definitions from the doc...) Contact, Administrative: The administrative contact is an individual, role or organization authorized to interact with the registry or registrar on behalf of the Domain Holder. The administrative contact should be able to answer non-technical questions about the domain name's registration and the Domain Holder. In all cases, the Administrative Contact is viewed as the authoritative point of contact for the domain name, second only to the Domain Holder. Domain Holder (Registrant): The individual or organization that registers a specific domain name. This individual or organization holds the right to use that specific domain name for a specified period of time, provided certain conditions are met and the registration fees are paid. This person or organization is the "legal entity" bound by the terms of the relevant service agreement with the registry operator for the TLD in question. Any proposals as to how we can best fix this? I will forward substantive input to the TF. Thanks, -rwr Got Blog? http://www.byte.org/blog "People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought which they seldom use." - Soren Kierkegaard ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bruce Tonkin" <Bruce.Tonkin@melbourneit.com.au> To: <registrars@dnso.org> Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2002 8:37 PM Subject: [registrars] Use of proxies for WHOIS entries and impact on transfer policy > Hello All, > > I can see the merits in using proxies to help fight against > unsolicited marketing. > > However it has the potential to break part of the proposed transfers > process. > > e.g if a registrar acts as the admin contact, it would make it > difficult for > a gaining registrar to confirm the transfer with the registrant. > > In such a situation the registry might need to maintain centrally a contact > for the actual registrant, and accredited registrars could retrieve > that contact for the purpose of a authenticating a transfer request. > > Regards, > Bruce
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