RE: [registrars] Fw: Principles

["Rob Hall" <rob@momentous.com>]

Yes, and the Registrar should be free to send it in any language they want,
in addition to english.

Otherwise you create a situation where we have a concept of language in our
Registrar-Registrar communications and authentication.  Better to avoid
that, and allow Registrars to send in any additional language.

I bet in most cases, the losing registrar wants to do the authentication,
and allowing them to not do it in at least english is very dangerous.

Rob.

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-registrars@dnso.org [mailto:owner-registrars@dnso.org]On
Behalf Of Ross Wm. Rader
Sent: Friday, November 29, 2002 1:24 PM
To: Rob Hall; Robert F. Connelly; Registrar Constituency
Cc: Gomes, Chuck
Subject: Re: [registrars] Fw: Principles


If the principle is to be reasonably consumer friendly (and therefore
profitable) wouldn't it make more sense to allow the Registrant to choose
the language of the communication in order to ensure that the Registrar in
question actually obtained informed consent from the Registrant?

-rwr

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rob Hall" <rob@momentous.com>
To: "Ross Wm. Rader" <ross@tucows.com>; "Robert F. Connelly"
<rconnell@psi-japan.com>; "Registrar Constituency" <registrars@dnso.org>
Cc: "Gomes, Chuck" <cgomes@verisign.com>
Sent: Friday, November 29, 2002 1:17 PM
Subject: RE: [registrars] Fw: Principles


> If the Authentication request is to be standardized, then Yes.
>
> In your scenario, if the Gaining is handling authentication, they should
> send both.  English and whatever language they choose.
>
> Rob.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-registrars@dnso.org [mailto:owner-registrars@dnso.org]On
> Behalf Of Ross Wm. Rader
> Sent: Friday, November 29, 2002 12:51 PM
> To: Rob Hall; Robert F. Connelly; Registrar Constituency
> Cc: Gomes, Chuck
> Subject: Re: [registrars] Fw: Principles
>
>
> "Remember, under these principals, it could be the losing Registrar that
is
> handling the authentication of the request. "
>
> Also note that these principles don't preclude the Gaining Registrar from
> handling the request. Should the Gaining Registrar be required to send out
a
> bilingual notice in the event that the Registrants preference is for a
> language other than English?
>
> I think I'm with Bob on this one.
>
> -rwr
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Rob Hall
> To: Robert F. Connelly ; Registrar Constituency
> Cc: Gomes, Chuck
> Sent: Friday, November 29, 2002 12:37 PM
> Subject: RE: [registrars] Fw: Principles
>
>
> Bob,
>
> The point is not whether a losing registrar will be forced to send it in
> Japanese.  The point is he Registrar MUST at least send it in Engligh.
> EITHER Registrar can then send more information in a different language.
> Remember, under these principals, it could be the losing Registrar that is
> handling the authentication of the request.  What I would not want to see
> happen is that the losing Registrar is able to send the notice ONLY in
> whatever language they want.  They should be free to send it IN ADDITION
TO,
> but not ONLY.
>
> What could be easily gamed, is that we could decide as the losing
registrar
> to only send the authentication in Latin.  While I should be able to send
it
> in Latin, I should also have to send it in English.  Especially if I am
the
> sole Registrar responsible for the Authentication.
> Rob.
>
>
>  -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-registrars@dnso.org [mailto:owner-registrars@dnso.org]On
Behalf
> Of Robert F. Connelly
> Sent: Friday, November 29, 2002 12:09 PM
> To: Registrar Constituency
> Cc: Gomes, Chuck; Duane Connelly; Mieko Umezu
> Subject: RE: [registrars] Fw: Principles
>
>
> At 11:52 AM 11/29/02 -0500, Rob Hall wrote:
>
> Robert,
>
> To me, this clause reads that you must at least send the notification in
> english.  However, you can also send it in any other language you want, as
> well as sending instructions in any other language you want.
>
> Dear Rob:  I don't see it that way.  English is mandatory.  I'd like to
see
> a life sized picture of *you* sending a Japanese message to a Japanese
> registrant who is trying to transfer *out_of* you as the registraR;-(
>
> Read that "may", below, and see what you think are the chances that a non
> Japanese registraR will send the alternate message in Japanese?
>
> Regards, BobC
>
>
>
> Rob.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-registrars@dnso.org [mailto:owner-registrars@dnso.org]On
> Behalf Of Robert F. Connelly
> Sent: Friday, November 29, 2002 11:10 AM
> To: Registrar Constituency
> Cc: Gomes, Chuck
> Subject: Re: [registrars] Fw: Principles
> Importance: High
>
>
> At 05:14 PM 11/27/02 -0500, Ross Wm. Rader wrote:
> >8.                  English is the mandatory default language for all
> >registrar, registry and registrant transfer communications.
Additionally,
> >registrars may communicate with registrants in other languages provided
> that
> >the principle of standardization in principle 5 above is satisfied.
>
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>
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