Re: [registrars] WHOIS expiration date for Auto-renewed domains

[Larry Erlich <erlich@domainregistry.com>]

Rob Hall wrote:
> 
> Bhavin,
> 
> I disagree. You absolutely CAN send an explicit renew in order to renew the
> domain if you so choose.

Explicit renew only does something if 
the domain hasn't been autorenewed.

> 
> What I suggested was that the Registry should change the expiry date they
> publish on whois, only after the 45 day period had expired, or if an
> explicit renew was performed.

That would mean that in a case of a domain that
was autorenewed and the customer then paid the registrar
(after the autorenew date)
the registry would not show the updated expiration
date (that the registrar would) because the registrar
couldn't renew the name (it had been autorenewed and
there is no way to do explicit renew at that time).
So the registry whois and registrar whois would
show different dates until 45 days had passed.


Larry Erlich

> 
> I do not think that they will want to change the RRP, nor the auto-renew
> process.
> 
> I would be happy with just changing the date that publishes in the whois,
> and keeping all other processes the same.  The debate of whether domains
> should be deleted on the 45 days etc. is a different matter, and should be
> dealt with seperately.  Let's solve this issue first, and then you can
> propose we visit the other one.
> 
> Rob.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-registrars@dnso.org [mailto:owner-registrars@dnso.org]On
> Behalf Of Bhavin Turakhia
> Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 11:56 AM
> To: 'Rob Hall'; 'Paul Stahura'
> Cc: registrars@dnso.org; info@verisign-grs.com; 'Chuck Gomes'
> Subject: RE: [registrars] WHOIS expiration date for Auto-renewed domains
> 
> > I think the Registry needs to show the real expiry date, not
> > the new one once they have auto-renewed.  I would couple this
> > with a change in status as well.  Perhaps "Active - pending
> > renewal" or "Active - Post Expiration".
> >
> > As a Registrar, I can always explicitly renew the domain, and
> > the date will forward by a year.
> 
> The issue here is that you DO NOT send an explicit renew if you wish to
> renew the name. that's where the problem stems from. Therefore the
> registry never knows that you have renewed the name on our side
> 
> This would actually require a modification to RRP and their
> implementation of AUTO-RENEW where an explicit renew command needs to be
> sent, and if it is not sent then the domain would be deleted after 45
> days. This is the opposite behaviour of the current "assumed renewed
> after 45 days" behaviour