Re: [registrars] Domain Expiration Date in Registry Managed Whois

[Ken Stubbs <kstubbs@digitel.net>]

Tim's comment here seems the most practical to me  also ...

ken stubbs

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim Ruiz" <tim@godaddy.com>
To: <Bruce.Tonkin@melbourneit.com.au>
Cc: <wessorh@ar.com>; <Registrars@dnso.org>; <cgomes@verisign.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 6:47 AM
Subject: RE: [registrars] Domain Expiration Date in Registry Managed Whois


> Rick,
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> I agree with Bruce's revisions. However, I would still encourage not
> including the option to remove the expiration date, which I feel would be
a
> step backwards.
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> The other registries also display the expiration date. So this issue is
> going to come into play again later. The solution should be something that
> is implementable by all registries short and/or long term, without
> backsliding on transparency.
>
> Tim
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: RE: [registrars] Domain Expiration Date in Registry Managed Whois
> From: "Bruce Tonkin" <Bruce.Tonkin@melbourneit.com.au>
> Date: Mon, February 3, 2003 6:25 pm
> To: "Rick Wesson" <wessorh@ar.com>, "Registrars List"
<Registrars@dnso.org>
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> Hello Rick,
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> Thank you for getting an initial draft together, and hosting the
> teleconference.
>
> I have attached a word document that shows a mark up of my suggested
> changes.
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> I have distinguished between the expiry date of a registry record (ie
> indicates when it will remain in the registry or the zonefile in the
> ABSENCE of any registrar actions), from the expiry date of the
> registration agreement between the registrar and the registrant (ie
> indicates whether the registrant has a current agreement for the
> particular domain name with the registrar - if the agreement has
> expired the registrar may delete the registry record regardless of the
> expiry date of the registry record).
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> As I have stated before, a better long term solution to align the two
> expiry dates, is to move from an auto-renew after expiry to an
> explicit renew after expiry. The grace period would move from a
> period for when a deletion results in a refund, to a period where the
> name remains in service unless the name is explicitly deleted but an
> explicit renew results in payment and a new expiry date. You could
> then decide what happens at the END of the grace period (either an
> automate delete, or an automated renew where there is no refund).
>
> The downside for the registry is that some registrars may receive
> payment from the registrant, but delay sending an explicit renew.
> Allowing the registry to display the current expiry date will help
> alleviate that practice (ie the expiry dates could still differ, but
> the registrant would quite rightly want to know why the registrar has
> not renewed the name at the registry).
>
> Regards,
> Bruce Tonkin
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