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Re: [registrars] Not a problem


At 09:12 AM 3/11/03 -0800, Rick Wesson wrote:
 Not only was the email based Votebot more cumbersome it was up to the excom to tally the vote and could be easily manipulated.

Dear Rick:  That is patently false.

[Second transmission, additions in square brackets.]

Dan's system is/was totally done *automatically* for Excom and the full PAB membership with no hand work for anyone.  Further, the results were there for all to see and verify -- for months or years at a time.  Here are the results of a CORE votebot from Wed, 25 Oct 2000 16:41:29 -0700 (PDT):

        http://core.beach.net/votes/0006/

Click on "Finance WG Charter" and you see who voted for what:

        http://core.beach.net/votes/0006/6-0.html

Now, what makes you think the Excom could manipulate that vote?

And since when is $250/month less expensive than $100/ballot?  We don't have more than four or five votebots per *year*.

I totally disagree with you, Rick.

[Dan advises that he either offered you the software or actually gave it to you -- gratis.  The system was/is very good, much better and user friendly than Boardroom's.]

[Further, I heartily object to the Boardroom's practice of permitting any participant to sign in and see what *everyone* has voted *prior_to_the_close" of the vote.  That is intolerable.]

[Dan's votebot system lets us all see what the votes were -- *after* the close of the vote.  Contrary to your ridiculous statement, Excom could not "manipulate" the vote.  I was Secretary of PAB and I also ran the Votebots under CORE's Excom.  I would never ever think of trying to determine what the vote was prior to the closing*.  But the members could see who voted for whish side of the issue after the closing.  Had there been any "manipulation" by *anyone*, it would be exposed by checking the list.]

Sincerely, BobC

[* Footnote:  The one thing I would do was ask Dan how many votes had been receive in case there was a need to "tickle" our members and remind them to vote.]

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