Comment, and a Question for Interim Board to:[ifwp] Re: Sovereignty and ccTLDs

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>]

Roberto and all,

  You are in our opinion for the most part correct here.  And the same argument
you suggest applies just as well to ccTLD's such as .fr.  >;)  In other
words ccTLD's should be dealt with just as any other gTLD.  As for you
comment (See Below) on .US, just prior to the ICANN Interim Board
being SELECTED, and Jon Postels death, Jon and the IANA/ISI were in
some negotiations with the US Postal service in considering administration
of .US permenantly.  And of course this was going on with the full knowledge
that the IANA would be privatized of course.  Seems to be in conflict with the
White Paper to us here.  Any thought?  >;)

Two questions for the ICANN Interim Board on Roberto's good point here:

1.) Are negations to any of the Interim Board members knowledge by either
     the IANA, ISI, US Postal Service, or any member of the ICANN
     Interim Board, yes or no?

2.) Is the ICANN Interim Board considering, now on any time in the future,
     considering resuming such negations or recommending to the permanent
     board as a special internal memorandom/other internal ICANN document
     or thru the in the future to be possibly formed "DNSO" for the .US
     ccTLD in light of the Esther Dyson November 6th letter to the NTIA,
     yes or No?

Roberto Gaetano wrote:

> Tony,
>
> You wrote:
> > Michael,
> >
> > >> This is pretty amusing.  This "world-wide resource" nonsense
> > >> was cooked up just about two years ago.  Prior to that, .com,
> > >> .net, and .org were the de facto US domains
> >                            ^^^^^^^^
> > >Not so. Four years ago I started an ISP in Canada and registered
> > >junction.net. You can check the whois database and see the creation date
> > >in 1994. I certainly wasn't the first foreigner to register in
> > >com/net/org.
> >
> > The phrase de facto was used to include the exceptions
> > like the one you mention.  There were (and are) even
> > exceptions to .GOV, .EDU, and .MIL outside the U.S.
> > as well as .INT outside NATO organizations - although
> > the biggest use of the last is for the Rose-Malamud
> > TPC.INT purposes.
> >
> > We can endlessly dispute our own views, but I suggest
> > 1) John Quarterman's MIDS statistics where he actually
> > parsed every domain and the associated host counts from
> > mark Lottor's quarterly/biannual data to determine the
> > location of the administrative contact, and 2) a cursory
> > survey of books and articles from the period.  Among the
> > latter is a good article by DNS RFC author Paul Mockapetris
> > musing why .com/.org/.net had become de facto US domains.
> >
> I agree with you that some years ago the registration in .com/.org/.net were
> mainly from US organizations and that .us domain was neglected.
>
> OTOH, the fact that the .us domain was not used for the purpose it was
> created for is an internal US problem that I don't really want to get into.
>
> But I am lost. What were we discussing? The same reasoning you use to
> demonstrate that .com/.org/.net were "de facto" US domains (because the US
> companies *chose* not to use .us) can be used now to demonstrate that the
> gTLDs are now *the facto* international (i.e. world-wide)domains.
>
> It "cooked" probably only two years ago, but is "de facto" now.
>
> Roberto
>
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