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Re: News from the ORSC

Well Kenty ol' boy,

Thanks for stealing my thunder <frown>, I was waiting for the DNS data to
propogate before making the official announcement. Are you trying to imply
something with this violation of my good wishes? I certainly didn't
authorize you to be the PR man for either ORSC or MHSC. Yes, the ORSC is an
OPEN system. That is why this dispicable move of yours is possible. But, I
*really* wanted to make this announcement myself. At least, you could have
waited until the DNS had propogated.

I will make a formal announcement by Monday. If anyone else wants to follow
progress then join the ORSC list. Unlike some others, it is open to all
whom are interested. I am currently instantiating mailer-lists for
DNSO.NET. That job is not complete yet. Further information will be
available in the formal announcement. As stated in this illicitly forwarded
message, DNSO.NET will develop and distribute operational software and data
for ISPs and others, that want localized root.zone services and data. I am
also considering making it the home of the development of the public
registry software project. MHSC is really an inappropriate home for that
project.

If you want to look at the web-site and your name servers haven't recieved
the zone data yet then you can use the names servers at <DNS:NS1.MHSC.NET>
or <IP:199.108.175.25>. It takes anywhere from 10 to 25 hours for zone data
to propogate, throughout the Internet, on an emergency basis. The normal
case takes much longer (days).

Again, thank you Kenty for an early release, before it's ready.

At 08:27 PM 12/18/98 , Kent Crispin wrote:
>Thought you all might find this message from the ORSC list somewhat 
>interesting... 
>
>----- Forwarded message from "Roeland M.J. Meyer" <rmeyer@mhsc.com> -----
>
>Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 11:33:49 -0800
>To: domain-policy@open-rsc.org
>From: "Roeland M.J. Meyer" <rmeyer@mhsc.com>
>Subject: !Oh shit, it just got serious!
>Reply-To: domain-policy@open-rsc.org
>
>As of this morning DNSO.NET is in the roots. Since Richard has DNSO.COM
>this leaves the DNSO folk with only DNSO.ORG. Note that DNSO.COM is on HOLD
>status, while DNSO.NET is not only active, but has a web-server attached at
><http://www.dnso.net>. There is also a <http://download.dnso.net>, both are
>being run out of www.svcs.mhsc.net, and MHSC production host. This host is
>running Apache with SSL and mod_perl extentions and I am adding server-side
>java capability now, so we can do some really cool stuff with it,
>web-server-wise.
>
>I did this primarily as a stress-reliever, I needed to do something funny
>and light-hearted. For that purpose, personally, it worked. I had a good
>time with it. However, there is a serious side to it as well. Those who
>know me well, know that I *never* do something with *only* a single
>purpose, or even just two purposes. It appears that Stef just instantiated
>the serious side of all this.
>
>I had envisioned that DNSO.NET could be an operational arm of a DNSO, where
>root.zone data is managed and distributed as well as, other network
>operations of a DNSO. This is very much the way MHSC is organized, in that,
>MHSC.COM is the business end and MHSC.NET is the operations end of the same
>organization. The location of DNSO.NET can be changed with a simple DNS
>entry so I can re-assign it anywhere I want to, if that is requested of me.
>
>Vaguely, what I had in mind, was distribution of basic root.zone, as
>discussed on the IFWP list. This has value-add to the current ISP
>community. I am RTFMing the ListServ docs now (if anyone has a better
>suggestion for mailer-list software, I am all ears). In addition, the ORSC
>root.zone can be distributed via a similar mechanism, rather a different
>list. The ISP can then choose which list to join.
>
>Realize this also, DNSO.NET is running on a system which is using the ORSC
>root.zone for BIND resolution. This means that ALL ORSC TLDs have access to
>this server. In other words, DNSO.NET is INCLUSIVE by default. 
>
>Operationally, we still have much to discuss.
>1) We need to define operationally, what a DNSO would do.
>2) MHSC.NET does not have the bandwidth that VRX.NET has, is this an issue?
>3) We need to get DNSO.COM out of HOLD status now and instantiate it properly.
>4) For the present, MHSC.NET will absorb the cost of operating DNSO.NET.
>5) Other issues need to be presented.
>
>At 12:18 AM 12/18/98 , Einar Stefferud wrote:
>>On the subject of formig a more open DNSO, I suggest that ORSC is
>>perhaps well positioned to do so, and I strongly suggest that the ORSC
>>version should promptly incorporate in Deleware, as that is where we
>>know how to do it quickly and efficiently, and where we can obtain the
>>right kind of non-profit trade association with proper accountability
>>to its membership.  I suggest the name be "DNSO.COM, Inc."
>
>DNSO.NET is instantiated as "Domain Name Services Organization".
>
>Thank you.
>
>>ORSC should now lead an effort to create a set of bylaws that
>>incorporate as much as possible from the current ORSC bylaws submitted
>>to to NTIA as a counter to ICANN, and also meld in as much as posible
>>from the latest DSNO.ORG draft, and also obtain recommendations from
>>iaTLD, and other DNS/TLD groups and organizations.
>>
>>ORSC has experience in running open mailing lists with civil discourse
>>rules, and we will be pleased to apply that experience here.
>>
>>Our objective will be to draw into this new effort all possible DNS
>>stakeholders.  
>>
>>Do we have any takers?  Who wants to go for it with a real outreach
>>and effort to really pull everyone into it.
>
>___________________________________________________ 
>Roeland M.J. Meyer - 
>e-mail:                                      mailto:rmeyer@mhsc.com
>Internet phone:                                hawk.lvrmr.mhsc.com
>Personal web pages:             http://staff.mhsc.com/~rmeyer
>Company web-site:                           http://www.mhsc.com
>___________________________________________________ 
>Who is John Galt?
>               - "Atlas Shrugged" - Ayn Rand
>
>----- End forwarded message -----
>
>-- 
>Kent Crispin, PAB Chair				"Do good, and you'll be
>kent@songbird.com				lonesome." -- Mark Twain


___________________________________________________ 
Roeland M.J. Meyer - 
e-mail:                                      mailto:rmeyer@mhsc.com
Internet phone:                                hawk.lvrmr.mhsc.com
Personal web pages:             http://staff.mhsc.com/~rmeyer
Company web-site:                           http://www.mhsc.com
___________________________________________________ 
Who is John Galt?
               - "Atlas Shrugged" - Ayn Rand