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All,

  Forwarding this message to inform everyone it seems that Amadeau,
post indicating that submitting proposals and suggestions on the
DNSO.ORG drafts was a bogus e-mail id (see proposals@dnso.org)

regards,

--
Jeffrey A. Williams
CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng/SR. Java/CORBA Development Eng.
Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC.
E-Mail jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com
Contact Number:  972-447-1894
Address: 5 East Kirkwood Blvd. Grapevine Texas 75208



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        Robert Shaw <robert.shaw@itu.int>
Subject: Re: DNSO APPLICATION TIMETABLE
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Amadeau and all,

  Thank you for this interesting and important piece of information
regarding DNSO.ORG's time table.  It is appreciated.

  I might again point out however so misleading and inaccurate statements
which Amadeau and we suppose, the DNSO.ORG's leadership is making
in this posting.

1.)  This DNSO.ORG proposal draft was by no means arrived at in
      an open and transparent manner given the already exposed
      problem with CLOSED mailing lists where these proposals
      were developed, namely the "Participants List" which can be
      found at http://www.dnso.org/docs/mailinglists.html.  As has been
      already reported several people that did NOT attend the Barcelona
      nor the Monterrey meetings were added by the ITU representative,
      Mr. Robert Shaw.  Yet others that made subsequent requests
     in discussing the particulars of a potential Draft bylaws for DNSO.ORG
     have YET to be included or allowed on that list.  This is in direct
conflict
     therefore to Amadeau's statement below.

2.) In addition Amadeau states that the DNSO.ORG is actively seeking
     additional "other relevant parties" (See below).  We also find this
     statement to be somewhat invalid and at least misleading and
     disingenuous, for the same reasons as I stated above in #1.
     And again this being the case, and well documented, we find
     that such a preposterous statement should be viewed accordingly.

3.) And finally, we would suggest and add, that if the INTA's draft be
     posted on the DNSO.ORG site that any other draft of modifications
     to both the INTA and the DNSO.ORG December 16th "Draft-7"
     also be posted so as to, at least attempt to REALLY meet
     the now false claim of Transparency and openness, as those
     drafts or modifications become available.  And that any discussions
     by all be cross posted to the relevant other lists so as to provide
    smooth and aid in insuring broad availability to those comments,
    suggestions, proposed drafts, and modifications to existing
    Drafts...

Amadeu Abril i Abril wrote:

> DNSO APPLICATION TIMETABLE
>
> Following on to the meetings held previously (see key dates below), and
> in order to ensure that all interested parties have a common understanding
> of the events leading up to the submission of a DNSO Application to the
> ICANN Board of Directors on the 5th of February 1999, we are publishing
> the following timetable  for subsequent drafts and their related comment
> periods.
>
> We and other stakeholders are seeking to ensure integration of other
> proposals (e.g. the 'INTA' proposal, etc.) with the DNSO proposal.
> We will also review and address concerns of other stakeholders and to
> this end we again invite all interested parties to participate (the more
> actively the better) in helping to prepare an application.  In addition,
> we intend to actively seek out other relevant parties.
>
> In order to achieve the objective of a representative, open and
> transparent process in drafting the DNSO application, the discussions
> surrounding the application have been, and will continue to be open and
> evolutionary, and we continue to seek comments from all interested
> parties. You are therefore encouraged to submit comments, NOW, for the
> current draft dated 16 December, 1998.  Your comments should be submitted
> to: <proposals@dnso.org>. Note: For administration reasons any comments
> submitted after the 5th of January, 1999 will most probably not be treated
> until the next and final 'draft'. For purposes of transparency, and in
> accordance with standard procedures, all comments received will be posted
> on the DNSO web site (http://www.dnso.org), with links to appropriate sites.
>
> The next and penultimate iteration of the Application will be published
> on January 12th, 1999 and will take into account all comments and
> discussions received to date.  In addition, we will take all other
> proposals into account and expect to be able to address satisfactorily any
> comments/concerns allowing us to incorporate these proposals into our
> application.  This date has been set in order to allow for all substantive
> comments to be addressed in advance of various meetings being held in
> January, including the meeting planned for January 22nd in Washington DC.
> We have a lot to achieve in advance of these meetings to ensure that we
> have an application that incorporates all relevant and necessary points.
> Additional meetings are being arranged specifically to seek out other
> stakeholder points of view.  The Period for Comments on this final draft
> will close on the 26th of January to allow time for the Application to be
> finalized and submitted.
>
> We would like as broad a participation as possible and therefore we
> encourage you to send in your comments NOW!
>
> KEY DATES:
>
> 1st DRAFT APPLICATION CIRCULATED                   SEPTEMBER 23, 1998
>
> BARCELONA MEETING                                  OCTOBER 16-18, 1998
>
> BARCELONA DRAFT PUBLISHED                          NOVEMBER 7, 1998
>
> MONTERREY MEETING                                  NOVEMBER 15-17, 1998
>
> MONTERREY DRAFT PUBLISHED                          DECEMBER 16, 1998
>
> COMMENT PERIOD FOR CURRENT DRAFT CLOSES            JANUARY 5, 1999
>
> PENULTIMATE DRAFT PUBLISHED                        JANUARY 12, 1999
>
> COMMENT PERIOD CLOSES                              JANUARY 26, 1999
>
> APPLICATION SUBMITTED TO ICANN                     FEBRUARY 5, 1999
>
> [IMPORTANT NOTE. The  <proposals@dnso.org> mail address will not be
> operational until Monday 4, 12:00 GMT]
>
> On behalf of the DNSO process "Transition Team"
> http://www.dnso.org

Regards,
--
Jeffrey A. Williams
CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng/SR. Java/CORBA Development Eng.
Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC.
E-Mail jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com
Contact Number:  972-447-1894
Address: 5 East Kirkwood Blvd. Grapevine Texas 75208


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