Re:

[jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>]

Ken and all,

  I completely agree with you Ken.  It has been this way for some 4 years
now.  Different players positioning for "Special Consideration" or
attempting to "Feather Their Political Caps" in one form or another
at the expense of unknowingly themselves, but to the great number of
the Stakeholders.  The ICANN and DNSO.ORG not withstanding
in these dealings.....

Ken Freed wrote:

> Until the process is opened wide for direct democracy,
> we will continue to see shenanigans among the players,
> positioning themselves for private gain at public expense.
> The desperation in these doings truly saddens my heart.
> >
> -- Ken Freed
>     Media Visions
> >
> >
> >
> >>Taft Charles Frederick a écrit:
> >>>
> >>> On Sun, 17 Jan 1999, Michael Sondow wrote:
> >>>
> >>>   > What's happening.
> >>>   >
> >>>   > The big business/trademark people are having a closed meeting in
> >>>Washington
> >>>   > to push through their demands. They refuse individual membership in the
> >>>   > DNSO. It looks like they're going to set up a wrap-up right after
> >>>the 22nd
> >>>   > to railroad through their demands for the DNSO.
> >>>   >
> >>>
> >>> This is absolutely unacceptable.
> >>
> >>How to stop them? The DNSO.org leaders have told them we don't want it.
> >>They've also told them we don't want their "facilitator" at the meeting. But
> >>they are just going ahead and doing it anyway. These are arrogant people,
> >>convinced that they have the prerogatives and that the Internet must bend to
> >>their will.
> >>
> >>
> >>>   > Esther Dyson is giving the keynote speech on the 22nd. This looks
> >>>like the
> >>>   > ICANN Board is agreeing with the trademark people, and throwing the
> >>>users
> >>>   > out of the DNSO.
> >>>   >
> >>>
> >>> I have read early drafts of Esther's speech.  She is non-committal as to
> >>> the trademark people (although her later drafts may have changed).
> >>
> >>They will see her acquiesence to their process as tacit approval for it. It
> >>strengthens them further in their resolve. IMHO these meetings should have
> >>been refused by the DNSO and ICANN. Going to them is an admission of
> >>subservience to the ICC and WIPO. Thye will exploit the situation. They have
> >>already, calling in their own "facilitator" without the agreement of the
> >>DNSO. With those people, if you give an inch they take a mile. They're after
> >>power over the Internet, and will get it if they're not opposed.
> >>
> >>>   > This agenda of WIPO, INTA, and the ICC is going through if it isn't
> >>>stopped
> >>>   > dead right now. The DNSO.org hasn't the guts to oppose them. It's
> >>>time for a
> >>>   > statement from ICANN. If the fix is in, why waste everyone's time?
> >>>On the
> >>>   > other hand, if ICANN won't accept having the DNSO taken over by big
> >>>business
> >>>   > then let them say so, let them say so now, so the Internet
> >>>community can
> >>>   > negotiate fairly and find a compromise!
> >>>   >
> >>>
> >>> I believe ICANN is still willing to negotiate and compromise, although
> >>> they must be handled with kid gloves.
> >>
> >>Their lawyer, Joe Sims, must have an understanding with the
> >>business/trademark lawyers. They speak the same language, want the same
> >>things. Why else did Sims talk Michael Roberts into pressuring the SOs to
> >>incorporate separately from ICANN?  It all adds up: INTA bylaws published,
> >>demanding that there be no individuals in the DNSO and that the Names
> >>Council, which must have "business experience", run the DNSO independently
> >>of the membership; ICANN press release telling the SOs to incorporate;
> >>meeting called by the ITAA, ICC, and INTA; release of the ICC proposal,
> >>basically the same as the INTA's, only worse; closed meeting on Thursday
> >>with no users invited; unknown private "facilitator" intervening on Friday
> >>at the "open" meeting; announcement to the DNSO that ICC and INTA are going
> >>to call and run, themselves, a wrap-up before Feb. 5. This is a strategic
> >>plan that has been worked out in conferences between the lawyers and
> >>strategists of the business/trademarks coalition, in order to defeat the
> >>Internet.
> >>
> >>
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Regards,


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