RE: FW: [dnsproc-en] DNS Lotto: You Gotta Be In It To Win It

[edyson@edventure.com (Esther Dyson)]

Ooops>  did I write *that*?  I hope I can find it (or you can help me to),
since it sounds terribly out of context.  

I appreciate the substance *and* tone of your comments.  They were helpful.  

At 01:21 PM 25/01/99 -0600, Higgs, Simon wrote:
>Esther,
>
>Thank you for your reply.
>
>This process has a history of broken expectations running back since 1995. A
>while back you expressed an opinion on the IFWP list that you weren't
>interested in the history of the TLD process, since it was irrelevant. If
>you were prepared to learn a little about the previous efforts, you would
>not be making the same mistakes that previous organizations, like the IAHC,
>made.
>
>Domain delegations are not derived from a lottery process, and neither are
>registration authorities. There is a formal application process already in
>place - RFC1591 - which has not yet been superceded. There is also a long
>list of TLD registry applicants, who used the RFC1591 process, and have been
>ignored. What you have failed to grasp is the recursive nature of any domain
>registration. Certain principles apply at all levels, whether they are TLDs,
>SLDs, 3LDs, or below.
>
>The IAHC decided to hold a lottery for registrars around it's monopoly
>registry, and the internet community said it was the wrong thing to do, so
>it opened up the registrar process to all comers. This is consistent with
>current policy. But what it still failed to do was listen to the internet
>community and open up the registry side to competition, by allowing multiple
>registrars access to multiple TLD registries.
>
>"Not for the long term" is a phrase that creates much distrust in the
>internet community, since previous efforts have deliberately used that to
>implement permanent policy. It's been commented on elsewhere that ICANN is
>also making the same mistake as IAHC in alienating their best allies. While
>you may have only noticed a lot of criticism, your best allies are actually
>the ones who have independently developed "rough consensus and running
>code", and who are contributing competing policy documents in the interests
>of openness. Unfortunately, the DNSO as it currently stands is burdened with
>the baggage and failed expectations of [failed] IAHC process.
>
>Best Regards,
>
>Simon Higgs
>WWW Architect
>DCMDW
> 
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: edyson@edventure.com [mailto:edyson@edventure.com]
>Sent: Saturday, January 23, 1999 10:48 PM
>To: Higgs, Simon
>Cc: 'discuss@dnso.org'
>Subject: Re: FW: [dnsproc-en] DNS Lotto: You Gotta Be In It To Win It
>
>
>Simon -
>
>As we have said, we welcome your comments.  What specifically was stupid?
>How could we improve things? 
>
>Note that we are considering the lottery  idea for the SRS *test*  for
>registrars (not for the registry; the article was confusing), and not for
>the long term.
>
>Yours trying to listen,
>Esther Dyson
>
>At 03:00 PM 22/01/99 -0600, Higgs, Simon wrote:
>>
>>Here we go again.
>>
>>Didn't the IAHC try something similarly stupid? They failed due to the
>>overwhelming objections from the internet community, and consequently
>opened
>>the registrar business up to all-comers who would stoop low enough to sign
>>the gTLD-MoU.
>>
>>Someone tell me that it's not the same people that pulled the IAHC strings,
>>now pulling ICANN's strings?
>>
>>History repeats itself when no-one listens.
>>
>>Best Regards,
>>
>>Simon Higgs
>>WWW Architect
>>DCMDW
>> 
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Martin B. Schwimmer [mailto:martys@interport.net]
>>Sent: Friday, January 22, 1999 6:46 AM
>>To: list@ifwp.org; discuss@ndso.org
>>Cc: dnsproc-en@wipo2.wipo.int
>>Subject: [dnsproc-en] DNS Lotto: You Gotta Be In It To Win It
>>
>>
>>New York Times - Friday Jan 22, page C4
>>
>>Lottery May Decide Competition in Internet Name System
>>
>>by Jeri Clausing
>>
>>The nonprofit board charged with opening the Internet domain-name
>>registration business to competition is leaning toward an international
>>lottery to pick the five companies that will get the first shot at ending
>>the Government-sancitioned monopoly held by NSI, the Board chairman said.
>>
>>Esther Dyson, interim chairman .... "said this week that she expected the
>>selection process to be complete and that the registry for the three most
>>popopular top-level domains ... would be open to competition by the end of
>>April.
>>
>>.....
>>
>
>
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Esther Dyson			Always make new mistakes!
chairman, EDventure Holdings
interim chairman, Internet Corp. for Assigned Names & Numbers
edyson@edventure.com
1 (212) 924-8800
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