RE: [dnso.discuss] Re: [IFWP] Timely decisions

["William X. Walsh" <william@dso.net>]

It was also pointed out to me that if we are going to count "members/users"
NSI's support of the Paris draft would add an additional 3 million supporters.

Apparently some of the directors of EuroISP didn't even KNOW about the DNSO
drafts, much less that there was more than one proposal.

So it appears these claims of support are not as solid as some would have us
believe.

Now, do we really want to play this game?

If the WMB Draft people do not want to try and negotiate a compromise from a
position of equality, and in the spirit of open honest negotiation, where does
that leave us?



On 13-Feb-99 William X. Walsh wrote:
>  
>  On 13-Feb-99 Kent Crispin wrote:
> >  1.  There is a vast disparity between the levels of support
> >  
> >  For the WMB application (In the interests of avoiding possible
> >  Intellectual Property entanglements I shall use "WMB" from now on,
> >  instead of "BMW" :-)) we have the following submitters:
> >  
> >  ITAA -- 11000 members
> >  INTA -- 3200 members, 113 countries
> >  EuroISPA -- Largest ISP association in the world
> >  ICC -- 7000 members, 63 countries
> >  AILPA -- over 10000 members
> >  ISOC -- 6000 members, 150 countries
> >  WITSA -- International Consortium of organizations
> >  ECE -- New European organization just started w/ support of
> >       european commission
> >  CORE -- 85 registrars, 23 countries
> >  POC -- represents 200+ MoU Signatories
> >  
> >  This represents substantial business, user, registry/registry, and
> >  general internet organizations.
>  
>  This is disingenuous at best.
>  
>  None of these organizations have actually polled their members, so you
>  cannot
>  possibly tally their members/supporters has having backed this application.
>  
>  It would be more accurate to say that the leadership of these groups have
>  committed to supporting this draft.  To imply that their members/supporters
>  have issued such support is not accurate, and then to compare that level of
>  support to the Paris Draft support is totally inappropriate.
>  
>  
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>  E-Mail: William X. Walsh <william@dso.net>
>  Date: 13-Feb-99
>  Time: 13:29:37
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>  "We may well be on our way to a society overrun by hordes
>  of lawyers, hungry as locusts." 
>  - Chief Justice Warren Burger, US Supreme Court, 1977

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E-Mail: William X. Walsh <william@dso.net>
Date: 13-Feb-99
Time: 14:34:43
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"We may well be on our way to a society overrun by hordes
of lawyers, hungry as locusts." 
- Chief Justice Warren Burger, US Supreme Court, 1977