RE: Selective Censorship perhaps on discuss@dnso.org? was:Re: [IFWP] Re: Registrar Constituency meeting - Berlin

["Roeland M.J. Meyer" <rmeyer@mhsc.com>]

I can't say anything conclusive. If this were going on then I can see no
way to prove it. However, given the characters involved, I am more
inclined to believe incompetance than malfeasance. The lists seem to be
broken in an undetected manner. That all the DNS lists are having
problems would seem to indicate some problem on my end. However, I just
finished rewiring the machine room this weekend  (consolidated all my
telecom gear into one UPS'd rack) and have found nothing wrong with
either hardware or software. Also, the SSL, SAMBA, APACHE, and SSH lists
are coming in just fine. Only these political lists seem to be having
trouble.

The fact that the Dallas POP, of Netcom, is being RBL'd comes as no
suprise. In fact, it is long over-due, IMHO and NOI. It has been a
consistent source of whack-a-mole-spam for some years.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brian C. Hollingsworth [mailto:Bholling@ix.netcom.com]
> Sent: Sunday, May 23, 1999 11:14 AM
>
> Mr. Meyer and everyone,
>
>   I have become aware with several phone calls to several
> individuals that
> the ITU
> is using some IP address blocking service to selectively
> block some long
> term
> discuss@dnso.org list member participants.  Is this
> essentially been your
> observation
> as well Mr. Meyer?  If so, this does not reflect well on the
> ICANN Interim
> Board
> or the ITU.  If this is so, it also starts me to wondering
> where the NTIA
> oversight
> on the ICANN process is on this point.  We here in the EU
> have had many
> serious
> concerns from the beginning of the ability of the NTIA and the U.S.
> Department
> of Commerce in this respect.
>
> Roeland M.J. Meyer wrote:
>
> > Eh, patrick
> >
> > Could you please repost Stef's message? I didn't get it on
> ANY of the
> > lists.
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: owner-discuss@dnso.org
> > > [mailto:owner-discuss@dnso.org]On Behalf Of
> > > Patrick Greenwell
> > > Sent: Sunday, May 23, 1999 11:27 AM
> > > To: Einar Stefferud
> > > Cc: list@ifwp.org; Amadeu Abril i Abril; discuss@dnso.org;
> > > participants@dnso.org
> > > Subject: Re: [IFWP] Re: Registrar Constituency meeting - Berlin
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, 21 May 1999, Einar Stefferud wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Patrick -- That is the bad news.
> > > >
> > > > The good news is that doing so will unmask ICANN for what
> > > it is;-)...
> > >
> > > True, very true.
> > >
> > > > BTW, my access to present mail to <discuss@dnso.org> and
> > > > <participants@dnso.org> is blocked and my mail is being
> rejected.
> > >
> > > Must be that ICANN brand of openness and transparency in
> > > action that I've
> > > been hearing so much about. ;-)
> > >
> > > /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
> > > /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
> > > Patrick Greenwell                Telocity
> > > http://www.telocity.com
> > > (408) 863-6617 v                (tinc)
> (408) 777-1451 f
> > > \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/
> > > \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/
> > >
>
> Regards,
>
> --
> Brian C. Hollingsworth
> Sr. Legal Advisor, International House of Justice Internet
> Communications  Affairs and Policy
> Advisory council for Public Affairs and Internet Policy, European
> Union
>
>