Re: the emperor's clothes

[william@dso.net (William X. Walsh)]

On Wed, 2 Jun 1999 23:58:09 -0400, Gordon Cook <cook@COOKREPORT.COM>
wrote:

>>At 07:25 PM 6/2/99 -0400, Michael Sondow wrote:
>>>Not at all, even if this is the sort of unfounded insinuation that
>>>is being used perfidiously by so many of your kind at the moment.
>>>
>>>All my personal funding and that of the ICIIU comes from money that
>>>my parents left me when they died. My parents were school teachers,
>>>but school teachers of a very special type. They were working-class
>>>intellectuals, descended from East European jews who had suffered
>>>political persecution, and they were brought up to believe that we
>>
>>I've always found "working class intellectuals" to be the most dangerous
>>kind of the so-called "intellectuals". They get all of their experience
>>from books and them attempt to tell the rest of the population the way they
>>__should__ live their lives.
>>
>
>you santagata are a fool to presume to know the details of sondows
>biography without direct inquiry

Michael posted enough of it himself to make the comments above,
Gordon.  No need to presume, it was admitted into the discussion by
Michael himself.  Drop it, it is really getting disgusting.


>>
>>But those pleasures, such as enjoying a sunset in Hawaii or eating
>>some spicy shrimp in Bangkok, allows you to interact with others,
>>creates jobs, incomes and self esteem for the workers. If you aren't
>>enjoying these pleasures, you aren't living.
>>
>
>some people believe in shrimp.... others travel as Mr. Sondow has done to
>virtually every corner of the earth to appear in person to participate in
>the ICANN/ISOC self governance charade.... what meetings have you gone to?

How your colors change, Gordon.  You attack ICANN for requiring
physical attendance at meetings when it suits your purpose, and then
use non-physical attendance to attack others when it suits your
purpose.  

I see that you and Sondow are perfect matches, you are chameleons who
change your appearance to suit your current goals.


>>> but
>>>would use it for some good purpose. Keeping the Internet free seems
>>>to me like a good purpose to spend some of it on.
>>
>>Heck, why stop with the internet for "free". How about "free" housing,
>>health insurance, food, cars, tv sets, vcrs, and radios. Each according
>>to his ability, each according to his needs.
>>
>
>here you make a truely assinine statement.
>
>
> sondow....and I... mean free in the sense that there is no world governing
>authority that can set political, economic or legal barrier of entry to the
>internet.  fr ee in the sense of the manifesto i posted earlier this
>evening.....  free in the sense that mr tuomey can't remove the Turks and
>caicos island or moldavia from the net to satisfy his bureaucratic
>whim..... free of the control freaks of the GAC, ICANN, and ISOC.
>
>sondow has lived under latin dictatorships... i know russia very very well
>having spent roughly seven months there on nine trips since april 1992.  we
>can both see quite clearly the totalitarian stench of ICANN.
>

If you have seen the anti commercial attitude of the Russian economy,
then surely you can see the harms of the Anticommercial positions
Michael really holds, and as can be seen from both his past and
present postings.  Let there be no doubt about it, Sondow is against
EVERYTHING commercial about the internet, and I can clearly see the
stench of a socialist control over the internet as well.  

The Haubenistic views you seem to now be endorsing amaze me from
someone of your experience and learning.



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