[wg-b] lying then, or now?

[Judith Oppenheimer <joppenheimer@icbtollfree.com>]

Mike, finger pointing diversion tactics:

>whatever the motives of those making
>the assertions you cite, they are erroneous.

are the duck-and-dodge hallmark of ICANN.  It insults everyone's intelligence, and
its getting tired.

Your and Esther's statements, both public record, are the only "assertions cited":

> "Our charter is essentially technical and limited to a very focused area."
> >......... Esther Dyson, Interim Chair, ICANN, October 4, 1999 (quote in
> >Tele.com)
>
> >"ICANN has neither the authority nor the resources to be a consumer*
> >protection agency, and in any event there are existing protections for abuses
... such
> >as better business bureaus, trade commissions, etc in most of the countries in
> >which domain name activity is present."
> > ......... Mike Roberts, Interim President/CEO, ICANN, October 5, 1999

So what's erroneous?  Were you lying then, or now?

Judith

*This was in response to a query about protecting the domain name consuming public
from ICANN registrars' domain name seizure policies ...


Mike Roberts wrote:

> Martin and colleagues - whatever the motives of those making
> the assertions you cite, they are erroneous.
>
> The USG White Paper, which is ICANN's chartering policy document,
> clearly puts trademark issues that intersect with the Domain Name
> System on our agenda.
>
> In the Board's very first policy action under the Bylaws - the
> accreditation agreement adopted last March - there is  specific
> language with regard to the expectation that a dispute resolution
> policy for accredited registrars in .com, .org and .net would
> be adopted and that when it was, it would be included in the
> registrar agreements with ICANN.
>
> In Berlin in May, after considering comments and the WIPO report,
> the Board adopted a policy statement in favor of a dispute resolution
> policy and directed the staff to work on one.
>
> In Santiago in August, after extensive public consideration of a
> staff proposal on dispute resolution, and broad support for a revised
> draft, the Board adopted a dispute resolution policy and directed
> the staff to work out the details with a drafting committee, and
> then post it for further public comment and final consideration by
> the board.  We are now in the closing days of the comment period on
> the detailed language of the policy and the procedures, including
> solicitation of community views on some details.
>
> In case there is any lingering ambiguity about the above, let me
> summarize:
>
> (a) the USG and many other stakeholders asked ICANN to work on
> trademark and domain name policy issues.
>
> (b) ICANN has considered aspects of these issues at each of its
> quarterly board meetings and will undoubtedly devote
> more time in the future to items such as famous names and gTLD
> expansion, which have been referred to the DNSO (see Berlin
> Board resolution) and whose analysis and recommendations will
> be carefully considered by the Board.
>
> Thanks for the opportunity to clarify.
>
> - Mike Roberts
>
> > Hi Esther and Mike:
> >
> > Quotes of yours were posted to the Working Group B (famous marks) list in
> > support of a general argument against ICANN involving itself in the UDRP
> > and other areas relating to trademark protection:
> >
> > "Our charter is essentially technical and limited to a very focused area."
> > >......... Esther Dyson, Interim Chair, ICANN, October 4, 1999 (quote in
> > >Tele.com)
> > >
> >
> >
> > >"ICANN has neither the authority nor the resources to be a consumer
> > >protection
> > >agency, and in any event there are existing protections for abuses ... such
> > >as
> > >better business bureaus, trade commissions, etc in most of the countries in
> > >which domain name activity is present."
> > > ......... Mike Roberts, Interim President/CEO, ICANN, October 5, 1999
> >
> > A discussion is now on-going as to "what you meant."
> >
> > Could you please provide the context of your quote to the Working Group,
> > but more importantly, briefly state your views as to ICANN's role regarding
> > the UDRP and the protection of trademarks.
> >
> > Marty Schwimmer
> >
> > P.S. Nice dancing hamsters, Esther.
> >
> >
> > @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @
> >

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