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FW: [wg-b] Re: ICANN's Mandate
This message is posted on behalf of Esther Dyson.
-----Original Message-----
From: Esther Dyson [mailto:edyson@edventure.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 1999 10:34 AM
To: Roeland M.J. Meyer
Cc: mueller@syr.edu; d3nnis; wg-b@dnso.org; mpalage@infonetworks.com
Subject: RE: [wg-b] Re: ICANN's Mandate
That's true, and that's why we have to earn our legitimacy.
Esther
At 01:54 am 10/13/1999 -0700, Roeland M.J. Meyer wrote:
>This is exactly my point Esther. There is no compulsion for a registry to
>signup with ICANN. If they don't, then such exclusions are not binding for
>the simple reason that there is no contract. ICANN had a special leverage
>over NSI, due to the nature of the NSI contract with DOC and then only
>because the DOC cooperated with ICANN. Other registries, such as WEB and
>SuperRoot, are under no such compulsion and ICANN has substantially less
>leverage.
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Esther Dyson [mailto:edyson@edventure.com]
>> Sent: Monday, October 11, 1999 5:17 AM
>>
>> ICANN's policies are enforceable through contracts. We do not
>> have statutory
>> authority.
>>
>> Esther Dyson
>>
>> At 12:30 am 10/11/1999 -0700, Roeland M.J. Meyer wrote:
>> >But I don't see where ANY of it is enforcable. This is a critical issue.
>> >
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: owner-wg-b@dnso.org [mailto:owner-wg-b@dnso.org]On Behalf Of
>> >> Milton Mueller
>> >> Sent: Saturday, October 09, 1999 4:10 PM
>> >> To: d3nnis
>> >> Cc: Esther Dyson; wg-b@dnso.org
>> >> Subject: Re: [wg-b] Re: ICANN's Mandate
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Dennis:
>> >> You are beginning to get a handle on what ICANN is all about.
>> >>
>> >> d3nnis wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > By issuing it as a "policy" statement though, the Department of
>> >> > Commerce has achieved the effect of creating new law which has
>> >> > slipped out of the due process arena. In addition, because it is
>> >> > officially "not law", it is insulated from Constitutional
challenges.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> m i l t o n m u e l l e r // m u e l l e r @ s y r . e d u
>> >> syracuse university http://istweb.syr.edu/~mueller/
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>>
>>
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>
Esther Dyson Always make new mistakes!
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interim chairman, Internet Corp. for Assigned Names & Numbers
edyson@edventure.com
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