Re: [wg-c] Vote for Working Group Co-chair

[Jonathan Weinberg <weinberg@mail.msen.com>]

	Let's all try to lower the tensions here.  Yes, it would have been better
to have a voter list.  But I see no reason to believe that anything
improper has happened.  Keith didn't vote for me, but he's been following
these issues for a long time, and he's a perfectly appropriate person to be
a member of the WG.  As far as I'm concerned, his vote is perfectly valid.

Jon


Jon Weinberg
weinberg@msen.com





At 08:08 PM 7/28/99 -0700, Mark C. Langston wrote:
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>On 28 July 1999, Craig Simon <cls@flywheel.com> wrote:
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>>I'm not so sure it's invalid. If Keith Gymer fulfilled his part of
>>whatever he had to do to join the group by a reasonable date, and
>>then some administrator (Javier I presume) neglected to add his name
>>to the website, it's not Keith's fault, and he shouldn't be penalized
>>for it.
>>
>> It seems to me the question should be when he became a member
>>(registered as an eligible voter) and whether that date came prior to
>>a reasonable cutoff point.
>>
>>Somebody please make a suggestion as to what that cutoff date should
>>be (certainly not after voting began) or else make a good argument
>>that we don't need one at all.
>
>
>Since Javier declared the vote without defining this, and without 
>posting a list of eligible voters, and since there's no way to get
>a list of people subscribed as of the beginning of the vote, the list
>on the website would be the fairest to go by.  
>
>Unfortunate, maybe.  But fair?  Yes.  People can claim right and left
>that they have a list of the valid voters from just before the vote,
>but there's no way whatsoever to verify it.  The names and date could
>be manipulated.  Had there been a full listing of all valid voters posted
>to the list prior to the vote (I believe I raised this issue a while back),
>everyone would have had their own datestamped copy of the list.
>
>Now, all we have is the current list on the webpage. (which I've just saved
>locally, to prevent any post-hoc editing attempts.  I suggest others do
>likewise.)  
>
>If we can't agree on whose vote is valid and whose isn't, I propose we
>declare the election invalid.
>
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