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Re: [wg-c] breaking up (names) is hard to do




On 23 August 1999, Dave Crocker <dcrocker@brandenburg.com> wrote:


>At 11:07 AM 8/23/99 , Mark C. Langston wrote:
>>1)  We have companies still operating at business-time, instead of net-time.
>>The net is a fluid and dynamic entity, and cannot be expected to be as
>>rigid as, e.g., a phone book.  That a company invests thousands of dollars
>>into advertising a domain name is more a problem with the way businesses
>
>You are right.  And the core of this "time" problem are th human 
>customers.  Get rid of them -- or change them all -- and we won't have a 
>time problem.

No, it's the human businesses.  They want to treat the domain name as
something other than an address, or a phone number.  It's nothing more
than a means to get in touch with the company.  And those means will
change.  Period.  It's a fact of life, and a fact of business.  Dealing
with it here should be no different than dealing with it anywhere else.

>
>>2)  The net currently has no effective means of intercepting a request
>>to a particular domain name and performing a redirect on a widescale
>
>Redirects are not a problem.  They are handled just fine now.

They are handled by the domain name owner right now.  I was suggesting
that they be handled in a more centralized fashion, by the registrars.

>
>However the predicate requirement for a redirect is that the holder of the 
>new name still holds the old name.  Overlapping registration facilitates 
>transition but does not resolve the problem that occurs when the old name 
>is cut free and even, perhaps, assigned to someone else.

Again, it's a fact of life.  Businesses change addresses, and mail gets
redirected for a limited time, so the business can notify people of the
new address.  Same thing with phone numbers.  Same thing with company names.
It's that cut-and-dried.  The means of contact change.  The entity or
entities who manage the means of contact provide a limited window in which
to facilitate the change, and the means by which the business can provide
some form of forwarding or notification.  After that, it's the businesses
problem if they didn't get the changeover done.  That's fair, that's the
way things have always happened, and the facilities to do that with domain
names exist now, require no additional cost or overhead to speak of for
implementation, and provide a solution to this problem.

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