RE: [wg-c] Developing negotiating points

["Cade,Marilyn S - LGA" <mcade@att.com>]

Of course, you are right, Dave, a part of my day job is representing 
AT&T; however, I was trying to be a bit "light" in my tone. I just find that
that this part of my day job eats up so much time dealing with processes
which are still immature and developing, and the rest of the day job goes on
as well.  As it does for us all.  :-)

I don't think that AT&T knows best, Dave. But we aren't without expertise,
in many areas, like many others engaged in this developing process.

I understand your view about geography independent enties; my comments
merely acknowledged that there are some enties who aren't in that space, and
they have and are using ccTLDs. It sometimes sounds as though no companies
or organizations are finding useful names anywhere.

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Crocker [mailto:dcrocker@brandenburg.com]
Sent: Monday, September 13, 1999 12:55 AM
To: Cade,Marilyn S - LGA
Cc: wg-c@dnso.org; Esther Dyson; Greg Crew; Mike Roberts; George
Conrades; Frank Fitzsimmons; Hans Kraaijenbrink; Jun Murai; Geraldine
Capdeboscq; Eugenio Triana; Linda Wilson
Subject: RE: [wg-c] Developing negotiating points


Marilyn,

At 04:40 PM 9/12/99 , Cade,Marilyn S - LGA wrote:
>I'm out of the country, and trying to do my "day job" as well as pay

For some reason, I thought that your formally representing AT&T positions 
in this process WAS part of your day job...  Still I'm empathetic that your 
supervisor might distinguish between near-term and (in this case, MUCH) 
longer-term efforts...

>isn't possible. In each case, I asked what would help, and it is: process,
>order, agendas, focus on presenting well thoughtout positions, which can
...
>On the number of gTLDs to start:  we conclude "one" because we are talking
>about a pilot first, before moving on.
>
>We do think that we have a good understanding of what customers, large and
>small, are looking for. Afterall, we deal every day with customers who seek
>to register domain names; we presently provide that service to our

Marilyn, I gave specific reasons why "one" is not particularly helpful, 
either from a standpoint of typical experiments of this sort or in terms of 
the particulars of this current effort.

Your response to my request for detail is to say that AT&T knows what is 
best and to cite your (extremely recent) experience as a registrar.

However, you provide no detail, so I will repeat my request for it.  At the 
least, please attend to the reasons I raised for "one" being inappropriate 
to the current situation.

>ccTlds: Dave, these are very valuable and well used registries in other
>countries. There is no reason that .us couldn't be the same. In some

I agree with you.  However it has nothing to do with gTLDs.

As you noted (and I have included the text, above) these discussions 
require structure.  ccTLD and gTLD issues are almost entirely 
separate.  Let's keep them that way, unless you have a specific issue about 
ccTLDs that pertain to gTLDs?

>So, my point was we need to not overlook the importance of the ccTLD
>marketplace as to some extent dealing with the "no names" paranoia that I
>sometimes hear.

The complaint pertains to limitations in choice for geography-independent 
names.  The complaint is real and serious, as anyone who has tried to find 
a good name is finding these days.

ccTLDs are associated with specific regions and, therefore, do not satisfy 
the needs of organizations that want to present a "global" 
face.  Organizations wishing this tone for their Internet presence are now 
all over the world, from rural Italy and France, to Eastern Malaysia on 
Borneo.  These companies are all largely limited to .com -- and .net if 
they are sufficiently techie/networking related. -- and we are entering our 
FIFTH YEAR of trying to improve their choices.

d/

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