RE: [wg-review] Karl's assigned objective.

["Cindy Merry" <tomerrys@inter-linc.net>]

Bret:  There are some issues about the registers' rights themselves, but I
truly believe that when you go to register your domain name it should be
simple to be signed up as a member of the Internet community and to receive
information about ICANN and all these other organizations.  The additional
problem that everyone in here is talking about is the "perception" that
these registers somehow represent you or me, and secondly that those people
with multitudes of domain names will end up having a greater say in what is
done.  So, is it a vote (say) per domain name or a vote (say) per person?
...and how do you control all of that...?  and we are having quite a
discussion on what consensus means...  and we are having a discussion on
what the ulterior motives of everyone is(are) ... and we are trying to
figure out how funding should work  ...and we are trying to understand
other multitudes of problems with various complexities and shades of
meaning being put on them by all interested parties.  It'll be fun to see
how all this gets put in simple English (pardon the nationalism exhibited)
and than how we all obfuscate the simplicity so that none of us will be
sure we really want consensus on anything suggested.

Are you having fun yet ?  Cindy Merry

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-wg-review@dnso.org [mailto:owner-wg-review@dnso.org]On Behalf
Of Bret Busby
Sent: Monday, January 08, 2001 12:55 PM
Cc: wg-review@dnso.org
Subject: Re: [wg-review] Karl's assigned objective.

Karl Auerbach wrote:
>
> > On 23:25 07/01/01, Karl Auerbach said:
> > >No problem:  The DNSO is to produce well reasoned policy decisions
based
> > >based on fair and objective processes that permit all interested
parties
> > >to participate on an equal basis.
> >
> > and we should read "policy propositions" and on "fair, qualified and
> > objective" Otherwise it would not be consistent withe rest of your
> > positions?
>
> Actually I prefer the word "decisions".  I'd like to be able to sit in my
> comfy board-of-directors chair and ask only whether the DNSO policy
> decision was reached via well defined processes in which every who wants
> to participate had the opportunity to do so on par with everyone else.
>
> For the most part, I'd prefer it if the board rarely, if ever, exercised
> its power to make DNS policy but rather left it up to well run ICANN
> public policymaking processes.
>
> Of course, if one reads the ICANN bylaws as they exist today that is what
> they very clearly say - but as we have seen from the rejection of my
> "request for reconsideration" on that point, ICANN's official policy
makes
> that bylaw language nothing more than meaningless surplussage.
>
>                 --karl--

As a new subscriber to this list, i find some of the terms, quite
humorous, in their context;
"fair and objective processes that permit all interested parties
> > >to participate on an equal basis."
and
"well defined processes in which every who wants
> to participate had the opportunity to do so on par with everyone else."

I found this mailing list, and, the opportunity to participate,
completely by accident. I don't even remember how I found it.

I suggest that many millions of people who are clients of ISP's, across
the world, would like to know what is happening in this area, and, want
to be ale to particpate, by being allowed to have their say, and,
therefore, input, into the procedures involved, but, who do not know
anything about this.

Thus, the Internet, and, the agencies controlling it, such as ICANN,
appear to most people, to be dark and mysterious bodies, which operate
in ways, and, with policies, known only to the selct few, with the
common people having no input.

I suggest that ISP's should be asked to email all their clients, with
information about the processes involved, and, with information
regarding how their clients can participate in governing the Internet,
through their input.

Then, each person, who has an Internet accessing account, or, a person
representing each organisation that has an Internet accessing account,
could be allowed an opportunity to have input.

Until such actions occur, the Internet, and, its governing agencies,
will still be restricted to a lucky few, or, they will be perceived as
such.

I believe that it was a USA president, who said " governement of the
people, by the people, for the people", or, something like that. To
attain such a degree of democracry, and, democratic representation, I
suggest that the above actions, via the ISP's, need to be performed, to
make the Internet a democraticallt run institution.

Only that way, will all who have legitimate interests, be represented
equally and fairly.

--

Bret Busby

Armadale, West Australia

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