Re: [wg-review] Bounced message from Oscar.

[Eric Dierker <ERIC@HI-TEK.COM>]

Can this be properly placed in a polling place.  And can't the polling place
have translations.

Sincerely,

YJ Park wrote:

> From: "Oscar A. Robles Garay" <orobles@nic.mx>
> To: Pilar Luque <pluque@nic.es>
> cc: <yjpark@myepark.com>, <wg-review@dnso.org>, <cctld-discuss@wwtld.org>
> Subject: Re: [cctld-discuss] Comments on review of DNSO by Mr Park
>
> I strongly support Pilar's comments, as long as we publish documents just in
> english we are contributing on the ICANN "language divide" which, of course,
> translates into poor representativeness...
>
> Oscar Robles
>
> On Tue, 16 Jan 2001, Pilar Luque wrote:
>
> > Dear all,
> >
> > After reading this lengthy and interesting report I would like to
> > comment the following points.  I will carry on stressing the same point
> > of view by e-mail and physically at the ICANN meetings till my voice is
> > heard and something will be done about it.
> >
> ____________________________________________________________________________
> ___
> > 1.
> > - Does the existing structure work to generate consensus recommendations
> > on
> > domain name matters?
> >
> >     Not very well. However, the sample is small.
> >
> ____________________________________________________________________________
> ___
> >
> > That is my point.  The sample will carry on being  small if every single
> > document is just published in English and never translated at least into
> > Chinese, Japanese, Arabic, Spanish, German and French.
> >
> >
> >
> > 2.
> >
> > Different voices in the ICANN orbit sometimes argue that there are
> >     vast unrepresented blocks of Internet users whose rights are being
> >     abused, but there is no actual evidence that this is the case, and
> >     lots of evidence to the contrary
> >
> ____________________________________________________________________________
> ___
> >
> >
> > I could not disagree more.  The evidence is that participation is very
> > low if we take into account the vast majority of Internet stakeholders
> > in the world.  In the ccTLD Constituency, to cite the example I know
> > best, only 40 ccTLD assist to such meetings out of 240 ccTLD worldwide.
> >
> >
> >
> > 3.
> > - How can the level of participation by GA members in the GA be
> > improved?
> >
> ____________________________________________________________________________
> ____
> >  I insist that translating basic documents is very importnat in order to
> > improve such participation.
> >
> >
> > 4.
> > 2. Communicate to the NC the terrible imbalance built in to the
> > constituency
> > structure, with business lobbying groups given 4 of the 7
> > constituencies,
> > and
> > non-commercial, educational, civil rights and other interests stuffed
> > together
> > into a single constituency.
> >
> ____________________________________________________________________________
> _______
> >
> >
> > I could not agree more.  Thst is the reason why the ccTLD constituency
> > is so porly represented in the ICANN Board.  We should step out of the
> > DNSO.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 5.
> > Review WG is composed of people from many from North America, Europe and
> > a
> > few from Asia, Latin America and Africa. As we experineced in previous
> > WG A,
> > B, C discussion, most active participants are from US, Europe, New
> > Zealand
> > and Australia who have no problems with reading 57 "English" email
> > messages
> > a
> > day and possibly respond to some of them in "English".
> >
> ____________________________________________________________________________
> _______
> >
> >
> > Believe me it is not that easy to read, understand and answer messages
> > not written in your mother tongue.  Who assured you, we non-English
> > mother tongue speakers do not have problems to read and "possibly" (well
> > observed) respond to "some" (well observed) in "English" (somehow
> > patronising if in brackets)
> >
> >
> > I would encourage more members of the ccTLD Constituency to support the
> > claim of translating documents so that the DNSO and the ICANN process is
> > more fair to all the Internet stakeholders.
> >
> >
> > Excuse my poor English!
> >
> > Pilar LUQUE (Es-NIC)
> > --
> > ccTLD Constituency of the DNSO
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