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RE: [wg-review] 11. IDNH


The US has a bi-cameral system, the House of Representitives and the Senate.
It works, albeit slowly.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bret Busby [mailto:bret@clearsol.iinet.net.au]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 6:46 PM
> To: Joop Teernstra
> Cc: Greg Burton; wg-review@dnso.org
> Subject: Re: [wg-review] 11. IDNH
> 
> 
> Joop Teernstra wrote:
> > 
> > At 09:11 17/01/01 +0800, Bret Busby wrote:
> > 
> > >Thus, if my understanding of all of this is correct, the motions to
> > >abolish the constituencies, are in fact, motions to 
> abolish the Names
> > >Council, and, to transfer its role, completely, to the 
> General Assembly
> > >(which apparently does not exist, from the ICANN orgainsational
> > >structure chart).
> > >
> > >Can this please be confirmed, by someone who knows and 
> understands the
> > >situation?
> > >
> > 
> > Abolishing the NC would make the DNSO unworkable.  An NC is 
> needed to
> > formulate policy for approval by the ICANN Board. The Board 
> cannot do this
> > without input from the stateholders.
> > 
> > What could perhaps be a realistic and stable solution is to create a
> > bi-cameral NC.
> > An "upper Chamber" , consisting of constituency (including an IDNHC)
> > representatives and a "lower Chamber" elected directly by the GA.
> > 
> > Policy formulations would then have to pass both Chambers.
> > Less opportunity for railroading too.
> > 
> 
> I see a very great and very real problem with that.
> 
> I was raised in new Zealand, with a single house of parliament (and,
> first past the post elections). Parliament got laws passed, and, the
> government of the day, governed. Then, I came to australia, 
> which has a
> two house parliamentary system, in each of the top two levels of
> government. The elected government governs only at the pleasure of the
> upper house, ahich may not be controlled by the elected 
> government, thus
> leading to an elected government not being allowed to govern, 
> and, as in
> an infamous incident, being thrown out by the upper house.
> 
> A bi-cameral system, as proposed, would serve only the interests that
> control the upper chamber, thus making the lower chamber 
> redundant. The
> constituencies could reject everything put up by the lower 
> chmaber, and,
> thus, the general assembly would have no say whatsoever.
> 
> As the two house parliamentary system has been so badly abused in
> Australia, to the extent that the country has, on occasion, been
> effectively governed by a single, senile, independent senator, who had
> the balance of power in the senate, so also, could a bi-cameral system
> be abused in this context.
> 
> Thus, I object to the proposed bi-cameral system
> 
> -- 
> 
> Bret Busby
> 
> Armadale, West Australia
> 
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