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Re: Outreach of ICANN? - Re: [wg-review] Re: [cctld-discuss] Commentson review of DNSObyMrPark
At some point one has to decide whether to stay and help ICANN become better and therefore stronger or
not. This posting of yours makes me wonder how I should interpret your input. You seem to be saying
that you do not want ICANN successful, because then you can not cause it's downfall.
So let me ask you point blank: Do you want ICANN to collapse?
Derek Conant wrote:
> I believe that the Multilingulaism concept being proposed by ICANN is a good idea, so long as the
> international Internet constituencies are allowed to play active roles in the formation of ICANN
> policy and standards. International Internet constituencies should play key roles in the control
> and management of the DNS.
>
> The problem with the ICANN Multilingulaism concept or outreach plan being developed by ICANN and its
> supporting organizations, is that it appears that it will only serve to strengthen ICANN's foothold
> worldwide through its erroneous policy that includes excluding international Internet constituencies
> from playing key roles in the control and management of the DNS.
>
> With ICANN developing a stronger foothold worldwide, it may become too late to debate productive
> change to include the international Internet constituencies' from participating in the control and
> management of the DNS.
>
> The ICANN Multilingulaism concept or outreach plan sounds like a good idea, however, ICANN policy
> regarding excluding the international Internet constituencies' from participating in the control and
> management of the DNS should also be addressed here.
>
> Derek Conant
>
> Pilar Luque wrote:
>
> > Dear Martin,
> >
> > This is not about being or not being able to express ourselves in
> > English. This is about outreach of ICANN. Not everybody, like you, had
> > the chance to be born in an English speaking part of the world. I would
> > like to see the ccTLD Constituency growing in participation and not only
> > English mother tongue speakers expresing their views in the ICANN public
> > forum. I would like to see the ICANN Board and the Names Council
> > composed by an equal number of non-English mother tongue speakers than
> > no-English mother tongue speakers.
> >
> > Estimado Martin,
> >
> > Esto no se trata de ser o no ser capaces de expresarnos en Inglés. Esto
> > es sobre el alcance de ICANN. No todo el mundo tiene la suerte como tú
> > de haber nacido en una parte del mundo donde se habla Inglés. Me
> > gustaría ver más participación en la Constituencia de los ccTLD y que la
> > composición del Consejo de ICANN y del DNSO tuviese una composición más
> > equilibrada en cuanto al número de anglo parlantes por nacimiento y los
> > que no.
> >
> > Pilar
> >
> > Martin Maguire wrote:
> > >
> > > Date sent: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 16:30:25 -0300
> > > From: Ida Holz <holz@seciu.uy>
> > > To: "Oscar A. Robles Garay" <orobles@nic.mx>
> > > Copies to: Bret Busby <bret@clearsol.iinet.net.au>, wg-review@dnso.org,
> > > cctld-discuss@wwtld.org
> > > Subject: Re: [wg-review] Re: [cctld-discuss] Comments on review of DNSObyMrPark
> > >
> > > Hi:-
> > >
> > > My apologies for not contributing sooner!
> > >
> > > I have been following the communications on the list on behalf of
> > > the (.tp) registry. I may / may not have all the necessary
> > > information to contribute.
> > >
> > > I note the effort and energy that is going into this issue and
> > > although a native English speaker ( though people may find it hard
> > > to follow my accent ) I beleive the issue divides into 2 main areas.
> > >
> > > 1. The practical issue - accurately translated documents in local
> > > languages.
> > >
> > > 2. The 'political / cost' decision to have this as an ongoing part of
> > > the service.
> > >
> > > >From the mailings I am unsure of the audience needs !
> > >
> > > That is - how many people who use and need the information have
> > > an ability to read and fully understand English !
> > >
> > > Of those who do not have - or feel they do not have - what
> > > languages are they using.
> > >
> > > This information - if not already known - would give the background
> > > information to identify the needs of the audience.
> > >
> > > In the interim, I feel it would be good to progress the issue
> > > pragmatically - and I believe that this can indeed be done by
> > > accepting the offers of translation - particularly of all key
> > > documents into as many languages as is practical.
> > >
> > > I know from experience - good and not so good - from working in
> > > transnational projects that in practice - the people receiving
> > > information through this type of communication require to share
> > > this with a number of colleagues.
> > >
> > > This is required to ensure good sound management reasons,
> > > ensuring consensus with local teams.
> > >
> > > We also require to ensure that communication on the issues we
> > > are dealing with - have the potential to be fully understood by as
> > > wide an audience as possible, ensuring that our role in participating
> > > and therefore representing communities has the widest level of
> > > feedback and support.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > Martin Maguire - for .tp
> > > > I fully agree with Oscar and with Pilar. As I mention many times to
> > > > Oscar, we also offer to participate in spanish translations.
> > > >
> > > > Ida Holz- .uy
> > > >
> > > > "Oscar A. Robles Garay" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Bret,
> > > > > It is very proactive your suggestion and makes a lot of
> > > > > sense to me. Although, I think that this is just an
> > > > > 'aspirin" for the head ache, and we are not facing the real
> > > > > problem, which, since my point of view is the fact of a
> > > > > multi language world. It is unthinkable to ask for every
> > > > > language and dialect translations in every single
> > > > > communication on the net. But I think every body would agree
> > > > > that ICANN needs to move forward on this issue and maybe
> > > > > open up sponsorship opportunities for transaltion on: Open
> > > > > Meetings, Critical documentation, crtical drafts, etc... The
> > > > > ccTLD constituency is doing a translation job in a voluntary
> > > > > basis, this is another idea. Other one would be Brets, but
> > > > > in many meetings Esther Dyson had to said that
> > > > > recommendation to english speakers many times and people
> > > > > didn't get it. We would be happy to colaborate one these
> > > > > ideas. This is not the first time we offer to participate as
> > > > > an sponsor for spanish translations, but obviously, as Pilar
> > > > > said, there is no willingness to do ot.
> > > > >
> > > > > Oscar
> > > > >
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> > > >
> > > >
> > >
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