Re: [wg-review] Concerns

[Derek Conant <dconant@dnsga.org>]

I did mean that I am "sympathetic" to your concerns and explanation.  I realize
that I was typing faster than I should have in my last message.

I can agree that work groups should be organized and have proper procedures.  I
believe that if ICANN demonstrated goodwill by changing its erroneous policies,
and agenda processes, that would be a good start in the right direction.

I am certainly working on ICANN taking these matters seriously and that is the
only way to get the job done.  I am not one who wastes his time and energy.  I
will continue to contribute to get the job done here.

Derek Conant


"Dr. Michael S. Gendron" wrote:

> Maybe if the workgroups were better organized, showed good procedure, and
> progress towards unified goals then ICANN would have to take us seriously.
>
> From:   Derek Conant [mailto:dconant@dnsga.org]
> Sent:   Thursday, January 25, 2001 8:42 AM
> To:     Dr. Michael S. Gendron
> Cc:     wg-review@dnso.org; dtreaty@dnsga.org; subscribers@dnsga.org;
> cctld-discuss@wwtld.org
> Subject:        Re: [wg-review] Concerns
>
> I am synthetic to your concerns and explanation.
>
> The problem here though is that it appears that ICANN does not follow the
> recommendations from any work group.  The work groups ICANN deploys are
> controlled by ICANN and appear to be facades for the public to believe that
> they
> are participating or contributing to ICANN, when in fact there contributions
> mean nothing to ICANN.
>
> Regardless of ideas and comments suggested to ICANN from work groups, ICANN
> appears to completely ignored such ideas and comments and at the same time
> suggests that the working group agreed upon certain ICANN agendas, when it
> in
> fact the working group did not.  I have seen this time and time again and so
> has
> most participants.
>
> My suggestion for a solutions here is that ICANN must immediately show that
> it
> is changing its erroneous policy.
>
> Derek Conant
>
> "Dr. Michael S. Gendron" wrote:
>
> > To all:
> >
> > This has been an interesting experience......wg-review. I can understand
> why
> > many have dropped out.
> >
> > I believe in that if you want to have something down, that you ask the
> > busiest person you know.  They know how to budget their time and thus get
> > things done. This group surely takes that and more.
> >
> > BUT, this work group is almost impossible. I have several concerns:
> >
> > 1) Many emails are very personal in nature - flaming each other and not
> > sticking to the issues.  This increases the about of reading immensely.
> > 2) The discussions can only be likened to 30 people in a conference room
> > where there are 10 different topics being discussed simultaneously, with
> > people on the opposite ends of the room.
> > 3) The lack of structure, policy, and direction makes this process
> > untenable.
> > 4) The few people that are left in this group cannot be called
> > representative of the Internet.  This consensus (sorry) is not useful.
> > Think about it, we publish a report...make a statement.  The someone does
> > not like it - they have the option of negating everything we say because
> > this groups is a small contingent that could no way represent the Internet
> > as a whole.
> >
> > I think our work is vital, but we need to model ourselves on standard
> > business processes.  Some ideas - set agenda's, have focus group/moderated
> > discussions, set interim goals so we know when we have accomplished
> > something - not goalss like "get the report done,"  develop sub-committees
> > that discuss particular topics then bring the issues back to the full
> group
> > for a discussion, employ better collaborative technologies. We have to do
> > something.
> >
> > I am willing to help, get involved, get more people involved, but we need
> to
> > organize this WG.
> >
> > Dr. Gendron
> >
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