Re: [wg-review] 3.Constituencies - RTF Report

[Phil King <yofelipe@excite.com>]

On Tue, 30 Jan 2001 13:13:54 -0800, Kent Crispin wrote:

>  On Tue, Jan 30, 2001 at 10:19:23AM -0800, Eric Dierker wrote:
>  > My son asked me the other day which type of government was most
>  > successful.  I answered with the question, "from whos point of view the
>  > governed or the government?".  Fidel Castro's reign in Cuba is
extremely
>  > successful in that he has remained in power for so long.  There are
many
>  > examples of success from the point of view of the governed.
>  
>  Here you express one of the most pernicious misconceptions about ICANN.  
>  ICANN is NOT A GOVERNMENT.  If you persist in trying to think of it in 
>  those terms you are doomed to disappointment, and your comments are 
>  meaningless.

This has to go a step further, correct it is not a government.  However it
is a governance body, with in it's mandate it provides regulation/oversight
of specific technical and operational facets of the net's structure.  As
such the type of evaluation presented is valid even though the terms are not
correct and may be misleading as well as create problems of their own.


>  
>  > My reading of the foundational mandates for ICANN make it clear that
>  > ICANN is to be judged from the point of view of the governed.
>  > All of the references stemming from Ms. Swineheart make it clear that
>  > she believes she should be judged from the point of view of staying in
>  > power the longest.  Her positioning is antagonistic toward the bottom
>  > up, Stakeholder representative form of governance as set forth in the
>  > bylaws and articles.
>  
>  Nope.  If you come from a false premise, your conclusions are
meaningless.

If the terminology is brought into the reality of the situation, then the
evaluation can still have applicability

>  
>  > The situation is becoming crystalized. Persons who will not follow the
>  > clear letter and intention of the rules of ICANN should not remain in a
>  > position of trust.

correct

>  
>  That, at least, we agree on.  That's why this WG is not in a position 
>  of trust.

Ah, but we are in a position of trust.  Or we are if we remain true to our
purpose.


>  
>  -- 
>  Kent Crispin                               "Be good, and you will be
>  kent@songbird.com                           lonesome." -- Mark Twain
>  --
>  This message was passed to you via the wg-review@dnso.org list.
>  Send mail to majordomo@dnso.org to unsubscribe
>  ("unsubscribe wg-review" in the body of the message).
>  Archives at http://www.dnso.org/archives.html
>  

Thanks, sorry I'm again running a day late reading!

Yo, Felipe (I, Phillip)
Phil King
Butte America
(The Richest Hill On Earth)





_______________________________________________________
Send a cool gift with your E-Card
http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/


--
This message was passed to you via the wg-review@dnso.org list.
Send mail to majordomo@dnso.org to unsubscribe
("unsubscribe wg-review" in the body of the message).
Archives at http://www.dnso.org/archives.html