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Re: [wg-review] Outreach 6


Generally this type of comment should pass without notice but because it is  so
erroneous it should not. Also by analysis it can lead to progress elsewhere.
Compulsory vs. Voluntary, dictate vs. Empowerment, Information vs. Slander, Critical
vs. Whining, Debate vs. fight.

What Derek demanded was compulsory, what he was offered and rejected is what he got,
Voluntary. As I believe Dassa pointed out yesterday, there is a big difference with
a very different result, empowerment not requirement.

The arguments over government versus corporation are illustrative of the point that
we cannot dictate but must negotiate. We cannot rule by vote accomplished fiat but
must find Danny's son's tribal consensus based upon inticed voluntary contribution,
attribution and acquiescence.

Who owns ICANN is not important to answer but only important to point out that it
does not matter.  Going to court to force an issue hasn't been done because it is
recognized that forcing anything here is counterproductive, at least at this point.

The single most important goal should be to obtain better more voluntary
participation. Somehow this was accomplished with this vote, but I think we can find
better paths to and from the Pow Wow.

Sincerely,

Derek Conant - DNSGA wrote:

> I acknowledge the votes in opposition to my motion request.
>
> Thank you for identifying yourselves for the vote though and for standing behind
> your votes.  That was all I was asking for.
>
> Derek Conant
>
> Greg Burton wrote:
>
> > At 01:06 PM 2/1/01, Greg Burton wrote:
> > >>Does anyone in this WG agree that this WG should quickly address and fix its
> > >>voting process?
> > >>
> > >>Yes or No?
> >
> > Voting has closed. Here are the results:
> >
> > Motion fails by a margin of 16 opposed, 1 in favor. Thank you all for your
> > participation. As per the announcement of this vote,  the topic should now
> > be dropped as there is clearly no support for Mr Conant's position.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Greg - working co-chair
> >
> > For:
> > Derek Conant
> >
> > Opposed:
> > bukko
> > Greg Burton
> > Joanna Lane
> > Eric Dierker
> > Larry Molner
> > Joe Gluza
> > Roeland Meyer
> > Sotiris Sotiropoulis
> > Dave Guers
> > Rob Juneau
> > Luka Muscara
> > Joop Teernstra
> > Karl Auerbach
> > Pierre Dandjinou
> > Eric Jonvel
> > Simon Kapenda
> >
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