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Re: [wg-review] [DNDEF] short quizz
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Thank you for your compliments.
However, my opinion is that the registrar/registry
should only give names out first come, first serve, and be absolutely
indemnified from any disputes between conflicting parties both wanting the same
name.
The technical and publishing components are
identical.
The creative and intellectual property components
are outside the realm of all of this. There already exist plenty of laws
about use of names -- the Internet, and specifically the DNS is just another
publishing/advertising means. The law can order one party to transfer use
of a name to some other party, and has done for a long time before DNS existed,
but the registry/registrar should absolutely not involve themselves in that
area.
One thing absolutely muddying the waters is the
very existence of _global_ TLDs. All propertly law is done in layers --
local, national, international. There's no way to arbitrate the use of a
name directly under COM between two approximately equally "worthy" (and this is
none of the business of DNS management) parties that are in separate
countries. CC TLDs are a large part of the answer to this, but in any case
it's not the DNS operator's problem until ordered by an appropriate court to
change the registration of a name (in a way that compromises no rights of the
operator).
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 12:37
PM
Subject: RE: [wg-review] [DNDEF] short
quizz
Miles,
Thank you. Your description of technical aspects is
clear and very helpful. However, any internet domain name seems to
comprise three distinct elements. These are:-
1) Creative
Component - the concept behind the language that makes up the
written title that gives rise to intellectual property rights owned by one or
more person or persons and or entity(ies). These may or may not be subject to
a registered trademark.
2) Technical Component - the
physical means by which the domain name resolves into a URL on the internet
(as per your description)
3) Publishing Component - the
act of exploiting the domain name by distributing creative content in the
public domain using the internet.
I'm sure you can do better for the
one sentence summary description under item
2.
Thanks,
Joanna
Miles B. Whitener wrote:-
The kind of
answers given below might not be very helpful.
An Internet "domain" only
has meaning in the context of DNS
"zones".
You either have to understand
this or trust somebody that does
understand it.
DNS is the Domain Name
System of the currently existing public IP
Internet.
Unlike IP
addresses, which are to a large extent physically
distributed all the way
down to end user networks, DNS names are
a weak concept and can change
easily.
DNS "zones" are "delegated".
The "root" zone (embodied on a few
DNS server machines) has
delegated COM, NET, ORG, EDU, MIL, INT, ARPA, and
all other "top
level domains" (TLDs) to various other server
machines. The
"root" servers are "authoritative" only by
convention and
agreement. Someplace upstream of you, a DNS server
machine
operator has a file with the IP addresses of the root
servers.
If your operator changes those, then you have a totally
different
worldview. Everything could change. COM might not
exist any
more ...
When you register a COM subdomain, you or your
network operator
has been "delegated" a zone. In this case it's
called a
second-level domain. So if you have bubba.com, bubba is both
a
zone and a domain. It also happens to be a SUBdomain of COM.
If
you want to try to sell SUBdomains under bubba.com, you can
try.
Those also will be zones or domains. If somebody can
convince you to
do this, you can DELEGATE little.bubba.com to
somebody. They then
completely control the "little" SUBdomain
under the "bubba" subdomain under
COM. All are zones, all are
domains. They are all SUBdomains of
something. COM is a
subdomain of "root".
Internet "domains"
only have existence and meaning in the context
of the DNS, which is only
one of MANY services that run on the
public IP Internet.
There's
absolutely NO DOUBT as to what an Internet domain name is
right now
...
If I wanted to, I could create some new naming service
and
advertise it. I could take registrations for names. I
could
even call them domains. But that would not make them
Internet
"domains".
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sandy
Harris" <sandy@storm.ca>
To: "Jefsey Morfin"
<jefsey@wanadoo.fr>
Cc: <wg-review@dnso.org>
Sent: Tuesday,
February 06, 2001 9:05 PM
Subject: Re: [wg-review] [DNDEF] short
quizz
> Jefsey Morfin wrote:
> >
> > Just a
test.
> > Kent (since I use Kent's post) has kent@songbird.com as
a
mail name.
> > I asked Sandy who did not
respond.
>
> I don't recall seeing that.
>
> > What
is Kent's Domain Name?
> > No theory asked, just please repond on an
example.
> >
> > Is it:
> > - is it
"songbird"
>
> No. That's a component, not a full name.
>
"com" is also a component, but isn't his.
>
> > - is it
"songbird.com"
>
> Yes.
>
> > Now what is IPC
domain name under: http://ipc.songbird.com ?
> > -
"ipc"
>
> No.
>
> > -
"ipc.songbird.com"
>
> Yes.
>
> > -
"ipc.songbird"
>
> No.
>
> > -
"songbird.com"
>
> No. That's Kent's, not IPC's.
>
>
> Now same questions with the alias http://ipc.dnso.org
rerouted
> > to
the actual IPC site.
> > - "ipc"
>
> No.
>
>
> - "ipc.dnso.org"
> Yes.
>
> > - "ipc.dnso"
>
No.
>
> > - "dnso.org"
> No. Not IPC's.
>
>
> - "ipc.songbird.com"
> Yes.
>
> > -
"songbird.com"
> No. Not IPC's.
>
> >
Jefsey
>
> But why on Earth are you asking? I'd have thought the
answers
were so obvious
> as to not be worth discussing.
>
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