Re: RE: [wg-review] Outreach [was: Multilingualism]

["Sotiropoulos" <sotiris@hermesnetwork.com>]

Brian,

Brian,

So nice to hear from you.  I am in fact preparing a draft report for
discussion which includes much of what you've mentioned in your post.  I've
been inundated with non-WG work in the real world and got set back slightly.
I hope to have something for the group to review by tomorrow (Wednesday)
evening in EST.  I am glad to see that you're still on the ML.

Sotiris Sotiropoulos
        Working Chair, WG-Review

P.S. This does not mean others should refrain from posting their
suggestions/proposals while they wait for my draft.  Thanks.

----- Original Message -----
From: <brianappleby@netscape.net>
To: <jo-uk@rcn.com>
Cc: <wg-review@dnso.org>
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 12:48 PM
Subject: Re: RE: [wg-review] Outreach [was: Multilingualism]


> Dear all,
>
> Please forgive my lack of active posting, I am not a lurker by intention,
only one who has a hard time keeping up with the mail traffic.
>
> Of late I feel we have lost focus and various people's own pet issues are
taking precedence.  We can probably do the most good for all if we help to
sort out the problems then match solutions to each one-by-one.
>
> I would like to express my deep concern as to what is happening now in
terms of the group fulfilling the request to separate recommendations into
those which can be implemented within the current organization and those
which would require a significant or fundamental organization restructuring.
>
> Where are we now in terms of achieving these goals?  Can someone post a
concise summary/update on:
> 1. What is the nature of, and status of the report in terms of completion?
> 2. A list on who is doing what and what is their timelines?
>
> In an effort to contribute something which may be meaningful and useful, I
offer the following:
>
> I propose that we first establish consensus on the description of events
as provided below being a faithful, descriptive, and concisely pure example
of the generalizable issue of "what is wrong with every aspect of the ICANN
organization, here focused specifically on the NC.
>
> Boiled down to the following, simple and generalizable issues:
> 1. Lack of transparency in both operations and the establishment of
policies and procedures.
>
> There should be some sort of procedure akin to the Freedom of Information
Act which could be applied to ICANN and all other such quasi-governmental
organizations.  (Based on fairness, this issue should be easy to politicize,
bringing in additional Congressional review and involvement).
>
> 2. Inadequate responsiveness to inquiries, requests for information and
proposals in terms of quantity, quality, and timeliness.
>
> There needs to be some measure of the resources which would be needed to
establish adequate service levels (definable by consensus as to what levels
are established).
>
> 3. Effective ways to ensure responsibility and accountability and to
guarantee a total lack of conflict of interest in terms of potential
economic gains.
>
> The foxes ARE in the chicken coop.  How can we get a certified UDRP
arbitration organization un-certified if they are not offering decisions
which are faithful to the guidelines and requirements provided to them by
DNSO?
>
> These are very functional, tangible issues to tackle.  I love babies and
poor people very much but in order to keep the working group as a
justifiable organization with clear value and meaning, we need to keep our
focus on real world (and not the whole world) problem solving.
>
> Sincerely,
> Brian Appleby
> brianappleby@netscape.net
>
> *******************
> (Please see below for info referenced above)
> *******************
>
> (II) DNSO Consensus
> From: YJ Park ("yjpark@myEpark.com)
> Date: Thu Sep 14 2000 - 10:53:44 kst
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>
> Dear NCC members,
> Can you suggest How to ameliorate DNSO Process' Frustrations
> which have been summarized as The List of DNSO Issues.
> DNSO/ICANN Election
> To invite candidates to various forums such as each constituency,
> GA, Names Council in the form of Q&A Session.
> I hope people can add their views to this small suggestion.
> What I feel sure through this dnso review process is we need
> CHECKS and BALANCES inside DNSO/ICANN.
> Otherwise this effort to coordinate cyberspace will get nowhere
> but rumours that there must have been a well-written scenario
> before we staged it.
> YJ
> FYI, The List of DNSO Issues.
> I. MISTRUST:
> Everything seems to have been discussed and decided behind the
> scenes. Where is the place to be discussed or where should be?
> II. SKEPTICISM:
> What's the use for the energies to pour into the works
> since it is likely to be decided by one-shot comment out of blue?
> III. DISORDER:
> Fine with democracy. However, how can we reach literal consensus
> by jig-jagging in the same place instead of sprilaing into the goal?
> IV. CHASM:
> We are different. Non-commercial is different from commercial sector.
> Developing countries' non-commercial groups are different from
> US or developed non-commercial groups. etc. How can we cross the
> chasm?
> --------------------------------------------
> [End of Message]
>
>
>
> <jo-uk@rcn.com> wrote:
> >
> > Eric et al,
> > The length of the following response must be worth 5 posts, but I think
it's
> > worth it, so I beg your indulgence and with this, I recuse my
opinionated
> > self for the next 24 hours...:-)
> > Joanna
> >
> > >Eric Dierker wrote:-
> > <snip/>
> > So yes pictures and such campaigns are important. But if I brought
someone
> > to
> > these lists with a compassionate poster of a child, and then they
witnessed
> > the
> > atrocious verbal battery that occurs here we would never see them again.
> > [...]
> >
> > I agree, but I did not explain myself clearly. Education and Outreach
goes
> > both ways. My suggestion was that we have a lot to learn from your
Shoeshine
> > Boy, if he would agree to share his experiences with us and explain how
his
> > life has been and could be affected. There are many who can only dream
of
> > becoming a Shoeshine boy. I have met families in Kenya whose children
> > receive no schooling at all because they will not allow them into the
> > building without a ballpoint pen, costing 10cents, which is out of
reach. As
> > you can imagine, we left with empty suitcases, but I doubt very much
that
> > any of these children have yet received the benefit of a single
connection
> > in their schools. While I'm sure DNSO does not want to place children at
> > risk in this way, how can we confirm whether or not they will be
affected
> > adversely by policy recommendations if they are not even represented or
> > consulted?
> >
> > The boy I am featuring here in the following link, Meo, is one of the
lucky
> > ones who achieved his ambition through use of the Internet and the DNS.
What
> > was his ambition? Take a look. http://www.phil-am-war.org/shiner/ A boy
> > who takes pride in being on his knees is worth more than a passing
thought.
> >
> > <snip/>
> > And so we must combine Outreach with educational gathering points where
> > through
> > a multilingual environment we can train the new recruits so that their
first
> > taste of battle does not shell shock them.
> >
> > I hope I have not painted to grim a picture with my words, because I see
a
> > great
> > and brilliant horizon where the internet can be used as the key to
unlock
> > the
> > chains that bind.
> > [....]
> >
> > As do I see a brilliant horizon, but neither are we immune from shocks
as
> > the enormity of the task unfolds.
> > Personally, I try not to forgot this one, which as you may know, was
passed
> > around the DNS fairly recently:-
> >
> > Read, wonder, realize, and count your blessings!
> >
> > If we could shrink the earth's population to a village of precisely 100
> > people, with all the existing human ratios remaining the same, it would
look
> > something like the following:
> >
> > There would be: 57 Asians, 21 Europeans, 14 from the Western Hemisphere,
> > both north and south, 8 Africans. 52 would be female, 48 would be male,
70
> > would be non-white, 30 would be white, 70 would be non-Christian, 30
would
> > be Christian, 89 would be heterosexual, 11 would be homosexual. 6 people
> > would possess 59% of the entire world's wealth and all 6 would be from
the
> > United States. 80 would live in substandard housing, 70 would be unable
to
> > read, 50 would suffer from malnutrition, 1 would be near death; 1 would
be
> > near birth. 1 (yes, only 1) would have a college education, 1 would own
a
> > computer.
> >
> > When one considers our world from such a compressed perspective, the
need
> > for acceptance, understanding and education
> > becomes glaringly apparent.
> >
> > The following is also something to ponder...If you woke up this morning
with
> > more health than illness...you are more blessed than the million who
will
> > not survive this week. If you have never experienced the danger of
battle,
> > the loneliness of imprisonment, the agony of torture, or the pangs of
> > starvation...you are ahead of 500 million people in the world. If you
can
> > attend a church meeting without fear of harassment, arrest, torture, or
> > death...you are more blessed than three billion people in the world. If
you
> > have food in the refrigerator, clothes on your back, a roof overhead and
a
> > place to sleep...you are richer than 75% of this world. If you have
money in
> > the bank, in your wallet, and spare change in a dish someplace ... you
are
> > among the top 8% of the world's wealthy. If your parents are still alive
and
> > still married ... you are very rare, even in the United States and
Canada.
> > If you can read this message, you just received a double blessing in
that
> > someone was thinking of you, and furthermore, you are more blessed than
over
> > two billion people in the world that cannot read at all.
> >
> > Someone once said: What goes around comes around. Work like you don't
need
> > the money. Love like you've never been hurt. Dance like nobody's
watching.
> > Sing like nobody's listening. Live like it's Heaven on Earth. It's
National
> > Friendship Week. Send this to everyone you consider a FRIEND. Pass this
on,
> > and brighten someone's day. Nothing will happen if you do not decide to
pass
> > it along. The only thing that will happen, if you DO pass it on, is that
> > someone might smile because of you.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Joanna
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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