[ga-full] Re: [Attention Harald, Esther Dyson, and Becky Burr] to:Re: [ga]disclaimer

["!Dr. Joe Baptista" <baptista@pccf.net>]

On Wed, 16 Feb 2000, Jeff Williams wrote:

>   You are right in that which pertains to William Walsh and his subsequent
> actions and statements towards you.  I suggest he publicly recant forthwith.
> I am personally insulted by his remarks towards a fellow stakeholder,
> and find his behavior repulsive and as Mikki Berry put it last week,
> repugnant.  I thereby request that one William Walsh be sanctioned
> immediately or without delay.  I bear witness, and will also do so in

Well let me take the time to make it clear - to one and all, that, the GA
has had forced upone us a set of rules after we suffered a fradulent poll,
both out chair and alternate were clearly advised the poll could be
subjected to electoral fraud - and it was.  We were subjected to that -
and these rules were imposed with out permission illegally.

But irregardless of this - rules are rules and Harald must follow them.

In your case - Jeff - you were sanctioned by hHarald for calling him a
Horse Shitter.  You were removed from the list for this trivial name
calling.

Then when Walsh called Joop Teepstray names accompanied by sever
allegations, his punishment was lenient.  But that error is Harald alone
to deal with.

Now Walsh has cause libel and slander against me.  I think it clear - and
I leave it to the alternate chair to deal with.  As is his duty.

> a court of law should Joe Baptista choose to service William X. Walsh,
> if Joe or his legal representative deem it prudent and necessary.

I won't do that.  Walsh is an irrelevant person.  And what he has to say
most of the times is irrelevant.  I think people realize this.  He is a
hatefull person and it comes across in his writing and I feel confident he
is judged accordingly.  So I don't give him much purchase.

However - It is my position that with imposed rules - and imposed chair
and alternate chair on the GA - leave ICANN open to libel and slander if
the rules are not universally applied with out bias.

>   As stated above, I also find that William Walsh's actions to be in violation
> of the rules regarding Name Calling,
> see:http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc03/msg01500.html

That's right.

> Excerpt from William Walsh:
> : "Someone drew my attention to a post by PCCF loon Joe Baptista
> which implies that he and I agree on his criticism of the current decisions
> and status in the GA list."

exactly.

> 
>   I will expect immediate action taken in response to this individual from
> YOU Harald, or your rules are not equitable and are therefore

I expect Harald will do his thing.

Regards
Joe baptista

> invalid (Which we know already) and completely improper for this
> type of forum.  I will be forwarding this to all INEGroup members
> for their dispensation and detailed review.  Pending the our memberships
> decision, additional sanctions that we deem appropriate and reasonable
> shall be referred to YOU Harald, and any and all members of this
> assembly for their consideration. All decisions from INEGRoup members
> are final and are not subject to redress by this assembly or YOU Harald
> until or unless previous correction that our members had me forward to
> this forum are addressed and carried out in full and without delay.
> 
>   This is all I have to say on this matter, any further comments, questions
> or considerations regarding this matter may be sent to James Touton
> at James.Touton@netzero.net for his consideration and dispensation.
> 
> 
> !Dr. Joe Baptista wrote:
> 
> > Harald - there is no need to respond.  The rules of this assembly - how
> > ever illegally arrived at - are still the rules of this assembly.  The
> > rules are lear in this matters and now it's up to you to rule.
> >
> > As for Mr. Walsh's arguments - they are dismissed - a concept in law as it
> > applies to libel and slander is a matter before the law and it's courts -
> > and not a consideration for you to rule on.  The rules are very clear in
> > their intent and purpose and Mr. Walsh's argument hold no purchase nor
> > defense.
> >
> > Regards
> > Joe Baptista
> >
> > P.S.  Walsh has finally replied to one of my messages.  Interesting ;-)
> >
> > On Wed, 16 Feb 2000, William X. Walsh wrote:
> >
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> > > On 16-Feb-2000 !Dr. Joe Baptista wrote:
> > > > More abuse Harald - either the rules are for all - or their for the select
> > > > club members here.  Calling someone a name, when that name calling is
> > > > clearly slanderous and libelous is not in accordance with the rules.
> > > >
> > > > Of course if the alternate chair feels otherwise - I would appreciate the
> > > > reasons.  Mr. Walsh has now been warned once with the Jopp slander and I
> > > > expect you Harald to act on this.
> > >
> > > Slander has two elements.   A false tale or report maliciously uttered.
> > >
> > > So first the comment must be false.  That element does not exist here.  The
> > > subject's track record and own comments have already defined himself as
> > > this term, and others have validated said definition.  (See a current
> > > poll on inegroup.com for instance).  Secondly the comment must be said with
> > > malicious intent.  Again, this element does not exist here.  What possible
> > > malicious intent could exist against someone who is not even a blip on the
> > > radar?
> > >
> > > Perhaps the complainant may wish to use a different term to justify his
> > > "complaint."  The comment that is being complained about was in response to
> > > a post for which the complaint of slander may apply, however.
> > >
> > > - --
> > > William X. Walsh <william@dso.net>
> > > DSo Networks  http://dso.net/
> > > Fax: 877-860-5412 or +1-559-851-9192
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> Regards,
> 
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